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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate Pilatus PC12 Thread!
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That video should have been 1/3rd as long and had twice the content.
This! Even at double speed and skipping over the kids, that video wasn't worth the time of anyone who can afford to buy one. I gave up on it in a couple of minutes, I'll wait until I see something in print.


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 Post subject: Re: The Ultimate Pilatus PC12 Thread!
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I am slightly disappointed in Pilatus.


What would you have liked to have seen them do, Chip?

The airplane sure has evolved from the series 9's I used to fly!


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The PC-12 PRO flight deck is simply beautiful. The new yokes polish the flight deck off, reminding me of the clean lines of a G800 cockpit.

One of the small but overlooked improvements is GDL 60 database updates over mobile data. Honeywell database updates were a huge issue for Pilatus pilots and maintenance staff. Honeywell made improvements over the years but it was still junk.

Worth mentioning, that this is currently certified not just announced.

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Autoland is a big safety feature, especially in single-pilot ops.


Surprisingly, a lot of pilot incapacitation incidents with a passenger end without fatalities, aside from possibly the pilot. However, it is a feature that is an excellent selling point for the spouse. I mentioned this feature to my wife (I've been keeping it under the radar for other aircraft models), and that turned into a feature she could get excited about. There is certainly value in that!


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I am slightly disappointed in Pilatus.


What would you have liked to have seen them do, Chip?

The airplane sure has evolved from the series 9's I used to fly!

I’m happy with the airplane, I’m disappointed that they hyped it so much and put out a long, weird marketing video.

I also knew ahead of time this was coming, so that took some of the bang out of it.

The November deliveries will be G3000 Prime.

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Hype was unnecessary. Was expecting something bigger.

The handful of LOC PC-12 crashes over the past few years stem from a mix of poor pilotage and decision-making. If I were in their C-suite, I'd be asking what technology we could incorporate to keep our airplanes from being deemed "unsafe" by the general pilot community, and this Garmin system is a very suitable answer to that question.

The so-called "pro" pilots can manage the Garmin just fine, so the decision isn't for them. This is a solution help prevent single-pilot ops of high net-worth pilots from killing their families.


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One of the small but overlooked improvements is GDL 60 database updates over mobile data.

I'm assuming that includes the full suite of PlaneSync features?


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I just don't get the negativity here on this plane. Okay, the video I get. But going from the ACE to the G3000 was a big undertaking and will help them sell more planes.

It's a better system in a good airplane. I think it is innovative considering what they needed to go through. PC24 is next I'm sure.... Let's ask Chip...

Chip, the 24 next? I'm a Chip supporter, but love how you threw in the " I knew this..."

So just spill the beans, when the 24 getting G3000?


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I just don't get the negativity here on this plane. Okay, the video I get. But going from the ACE to the G3000 was a big undertaking and will help them sell more planes.

It's a better system in a good airplane. I think it is innovative considering what they needed to go through. PC24 is next I'm sure.... Let's ask Chip...

Chip, the 24 next? I'm a Chip supporter, but love how you threw in the " I knew this..."

So just spill the beans, when the 24 getting G3000?


They say it isn’t, that the PC12 project has been in work for a long time.

Obviously, changes like this have to be kept secret or it will affect current sales.

It does take flight testing and when you start flying airplanes around with a boom on them… it’s hard to hide!


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