Yes, that’s what they use at my home drome

Because nobody asked:

Just spoke to owner of the P180 based at my home airport and it's in Kansas getting a full Garmin panel put in. Or, as we like to say in the business, it's getting "Pigliacampo'd"..

I’m sure everyone saw the poor guy settle back on to the runway after rotation and gear retraction.

Thanks! And yes, it worked fine.

Was there a video?

I saw some photos. No video (not to imply there isn’t one somewhere).

I was told Avanti attempted to take off without flaps.
I am more human than most pilots so I always try to put down my flaps shortly after turning on second generator followed with checklist verifying flaps are down and finally touching flaps again when I line up and verifying clean panel.

SIXTEEN SECONDS TO DEPLOY TAKEOFF FLAPS IS A LONG TIME

Only time my flaps are up when on the ground is when I leave her at the shop. Otherwise flaps mid.

Always screwing on front wing static wicks. Good time to note flap position.

Matt, I have thought about this, and I may eventually be willing to part with this, but I think I need to have a plan for what I’m going to do with this first. I’ve not had good luck yet finding someplace to build me a replacement.

So for the moment, I am back to pursuing this cabinet and maybe fixing it. Daniele has been super helpful and provided some leads to pursue, but nothing concrete has come quite yet. So I figure I will also continue the crowd source info gathering.

Here are some pics of my cabinet. I need to figure out how the top thing that holds the coffee urn stays up when lifted up. I can’t quite tell whether the gas struts should be strong enough, or whether there is some kind of prop stand that maybe clips into the center clips to hold it when opened. Not sure where such a thing would attach though.

Anyone else have pics (or just a description) of this unit that show whether I’m missing something like a prop stand in there? Do the struts hold it up? Where does the metal insert drain? Where would the overflow tube of the coffee urn drain if I put something in it?

Thanks all.

Jon,

If you haven't already you might give Dave Guzman at Southwest Aviation Specialties a call. He has a lot of experience rebuilding P180's and has an interior shop along with a couple hangars full of parts.

Re:no flaps

I have been told it takes off fine with no flaps, you just need to rotate fast and accelerate a bit before climbing. Obviously needs more runway too.

No flap landings are great. Nose pitches way up during flare and it glides on. Best landing I have ever made in plane.

If you thought flaps were out though and rotated normally, I could see settling occurring. Hope it can be repaired.

I would get rid of the coffee pot setup and just put a K CUP machine in, or a NESPRESSO machine

This is definitely the way to go, just need an inverter up to the job. There are small hotel-style keurigs that work well and as I recall are "only" 800 watts so you can get away with a 1,000 watt inverter. I also got a DC mini fridge so as not to deal with ice, but it doesn't get very cold in the thin air of the cabin.

This is as close to a Piaggio as I've gotten in two months. It's still pretty fast as it swerves around people on narrow streets!

This is as close to a Piaggio as I've gotten in two months. It's still pretty fast as it swerves around people on narrow streets!