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 Post subject: Re: Plane suggestions?
PostPosted: 31 Oct 2020, 20:48 
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There's been a lot of great suggestions for SE planes, but if you want a plane for traveling I would get a C310R or Q. They sit taller and are much roomier than a B55. I like having a second engine. It will definitely cost more to operate but you will travel fast and in comfort. Some even have AC. Personally, I prefer the turbo charged models but that will drastically increase the maintenance costs.

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There's been a lot of great suggestions for SE planes, but if you want a plane for traveling I would get a C310R or Q. They sit taller and are much roomier than a B55. I like having a second engine. It will definitely cost more to operate but you will travel fast and in comfort. Some even have AC. Personally, I prefer the turbo charged models but that will drastically increase the maintenance costs.

The 310 and 58 baron are both great traveling machines for a family. They are both more airplane than I need or that I’d want to maintain, especially since my family doesn’t really want to travel. If I was flying 400+ miles and in weather, a twin would be at the top of my list. I don’t like the idea of real IFR or flying at night on one motor. Turbos would give me some performance, but I don’t need to go high living in OK and I don’t know if I would want to mess with oxygen. If I need to go far or with the family, I can go on the airline.


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You would be well served with a P-Ponked 180, and a Pitts S1S that can very well fit under the 'Wagon's wing. The overall cool factor of both taildraggers may well play a significant part in your decision. The 180 will take you around the world, as proven by Jerrie Mock. A Pitts Special gives you a high place in the recognition ladder among your pilot acquaintances.
I keep the back seat out of mine, and carry my folding Montague bike, camping and fishing gear, and everything needed to live out of the airplane for two week's time.
Good hunting.

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That would be the best of both worlds. The single seat Pitts would fit in my shop with the existing door. I’m not remotely interested in recognition or competition, but I would like to learn to fly intermediate level aerobatics. A really nice single seat Pitts would be about $50K and would be more airplane than I’d ever need for what I want to do. A 180 wouldn’t fit in my current shop, but Air Plains is only 65 miles away and they could do the 300 hp conversion if I wanted to spend the money. If I find that GA flying is something that I want to do long term, putting in a basic hangar at the house isn’t out of the question. A local farmer has a low time 180 that has never been out of OK that he inherited. I’d love to pick that up if he ever decided to sell, but he has said that he’ll never sell his dad's plane. I can’t blame him. On the other hand, Maules have all of the load that I’d need, incredible STOL performance, the entire side opens up to load cargo, and it would fit in my current building with a door modification. I could also get a much newer Maule for the price of a good 180. A 180 is definitely the cream of the crop, but for only 5-10 knots difference in speed, I’d probably just go with a newer Maule.


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I considered a 182. It is a fantastic plane that would do everything, but if I’m going to fly a more off-road type plane, I want a tailwheel simply because I like them. I have some time in 182’s, and lots of time jumping out of them, but they don’t really do it for me. The 180 that you mentioned would be perfect, but I think that the wingspan would be too much for my shop. I’d either like a go somewhere in a hurry machine, or something that I can beat the hell out of and keep at home. I also think that I’d be more likely to use a plane if it was at home.


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Al Mooney’s little wooden bullets certainly were neat airplanes.

If you’re going with a Culver, why not go all-in and get a Culver Cadet? All of the fun and a tailwheel too.

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I considered a 182. It is a fantastic plane that would do everything, but if I’m going to fly a more off-road type plane, I want a tailwheel simply because I like them. I have some time in 182’s, and lots of time jumping out of them, but they don’t really do it for me. The 180 that you mentioned would be perfect, but I think that the wingspan would be too much for my shop. I’d either like a go somewhere in a hurry machine, or something that I can beat the hell out of and keep at home. I also think that I’d be more likely to use a plane if it was at home.


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Those three planes could pack a bunch of elk meat out of there. Nice photo.

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Acq <100k
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As good soft/short-field as the V tail 35s
>160 KTAS cruise for traveling.

Borrow your buddy's Dec for aerobatic and TW proficiency, he offered it because he wants it run.

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Socata Trinidad in the price range you mention. You won't get twin engine redundancy but you get the reliable lycoming powerplants and lots of comfort in cabin for the 160 kt speed. Trailing link gear gives soft landings and handles grass fields ok. Brand is still well supported by a financially viable company unlike Mooney or even Beech. Generally will find them upscale in equipment and the airframe is completely corrosion treated from the factory.


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It’s going to be a bit of an echo chamber but maybe head over to the RV forum to ask about hauling your gear. Being an experimental born in the NorthWest I’d put money on it that someone has added a well built ski/fly rod tube or extended baggage to one, if not all of the RV’s that would fit your mission. Another benefit to the experimental scene is the affordability of upgrades. For example, if an autopilot would really feed your inner airline pilot it’s much cheaper to add a state of the art digital box to an RV than it is any certified airplane.

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Airplane is roomy, relatively fast and has the gear to stand up to most any grass strip well maintained or not.
Parts everywhere, eminently upgradable and great Visibiiity.

Your wife will be happy to fly in the Bo but will look at a Maule like it’s built in the 30s.

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Have you looked into Socata TB-21. Nice airplane. I used to own one and loved it.

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Early 35 will operate just fine out of a 2100 ft strip with obstacles. I am based on a 1700 ft grass strip on an island surrounded by trees and water. The north runway requires a swooping left turn approach like a Corsair carrier landing and the reverse if you are flying out of the south runway. The 35s there are down and stopped in less than half the runway and get off and out no problem at all. Very impressive from what I have seen.

[Link]http://skyranchairport.org/[/Link]

video of landing on north runway(not my video).

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You don't say how many seats are needed? If only 2, look at the RVs. My RV9 has a to/ldg distance of about 500 feet at sea level, can cruise about 170kts WOT or only burn 5.6gal/hr if I pull it back to 150kts, and can make it up to the flight levels on O2 without an issue.

The RV10 would meet all of your needs for a 4-place, but you won't find a good one for that budget.


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