The new "Flying" magazine came today with the IS&S autothrottle equipped PC-12 on the cover. Impressive story inside. Their next certification is for the King Air family which, according to them, will be in hand shortly beginning with the 200. The enhanced control of the PT-6 engine family is near FADEC-like and will be a great addition. The autothrottle is priced at $55K not including install. The full cockpit upgrade (to get all the Next-gen benefits, New displays, RNP, WAAS-LPV, etc. etc.) is apparently $300K additional. First Sandel and now this. What's the old Chinese curse - May you live in interesting times...

That install is for Legacy PC12
http://innovative-ss.com/platforms-and- ... tus-pc-12/

setting the throttle is so easy though.

Not surprising. IS&S developed the AVIO NG IFMS, FADEC, and auto-throttles for the Eclipse 500/550. It's easy to port all that over to another platform. As much as people knock the Eclipse and it's avionics, it's actually quite good. Garmin isn't the end-all-be-all for general aviation.

http://innovative-ss.com/platforms-and- ... avio-ifms/


Warren

Jason

I can't see any reason why their total system, with displays, flight management, etc. could not replace the entire NG Honeywell system if an operator so chose. I'll grant you It might not make the best sense, but it could be done. I haven't seen anything yet that says the autothrottle won't work with the APEX but that doesn't make it so. We'll just have to wait and see on that one.

Warren

On the subject of the IS&S panel, I agree with what was said earlier. I have sat and played with the Eclipe system, never flown it, and I was honestly impressed with their methodology and simplicity. I hope that has continued. I don't think Garmin came down the mountain right behind Moses either. These other guys are gonna make Garmins life more complicated and that's a good thing for us.

Unneeded in my opinion. Textron salesman always wants to tell me about Fadec in the Denali. Unneeded option also in my opinion

I agree, keep it simple.
Fadec maybe as it might help some guys who overtemp, overspeed or overtorque.

The whole airplane is Honeywell.... not just the avionics.

Also, yes, there's not much to setting the throttle in a PC12.

So true - push forward to go slow. Pull back to go slower.

This is not FADEC although it does do some of those things in a limited way. This is not primarily about saving some rookie from a hot section/early overhaul. It is being developed for the same reasons it is used in commercial aviation and heavy business iron, it is to hopefully eliminate one more failure step in the accident chain. Making fun or light of it doesn't make good sense.

It's going to make go arounds easier for sure.

Hardest part on a heavy go around on a King Air is not overtemping if it it's high/hot.

It's also the only airplane I've flown where power on a GA isn't either "push button" or "Push lever to stops"

Push Button:
737
757
767

Push to stops:
T-34 (PT6, but with a torque limiter, and unlikely to overtemp)
T-45 (sort of a FADEC acting system)
E-2C (will go to max calculated HP but won't exceed any limit, but not a true FADEC)


Push hard, but not too hard:
T-44 (C90)
BE200
BE300
BE350

Casey

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