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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision-now certified
PostPosted: 01 Nov 2016, 10:26 
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I forget, what time criteria for your bet?

I am curious about the certification.

If you remember the eclipse was certified with a garmin 496 for navigation! Yikes!

Will the eclipse be limited? What's the cost for a typical well equipped FIKI plane?

What are the specs? Can it meet the expectations?

Not much info on performance?

Where's the chute video?


Cirrus was certified with off the shelf G3000 system, somehow I don't think that's going to be an issue. Garmin did the heavy lifting. Are you questioning their ability to certify anything? They are not avionics builder any more than Cessna is an aircraft builder. They are certification machines.

Deicing was certified by CAV. They've done it once or twice or twenty times.

Cirrus has been around the block once or twice as well.

New to this forum, but Cirrus bashing continues as well here as it does on all others.

It's like the caveman going: Fire, bad.



Are you saying Cessna is not an aircraft builder?

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision-now certified
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If Cirrus delivers the fifth SF-50 to a customer (to avoid any shenanigans with fake early deliveries, an industry tradition) by Jan 1st, 2018, 3+ years from now and more than 10 years after the program was started, then I will never post again on this forum. If they fail to, you will never post again on this forum.

Have we got a deal? :-)

If you start arguing that 3 years isn't enough time, then you are basically saying the SF-50 really is vaporware right now.
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From the Cirrus website:

    Initial customer deliveries of the Vision Jet are scheduled to begin in 2016, with production ramping up throughout 2017. The Vision Jet, along with the world’s best selling high-performance piston airplane, will be on display at the NBAA Business Aviation Convention and Exhibition, 1-3 November in Orlando, FL.


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision-now certified
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I forget, what time criteria for your bet?

I am curious about the certification.

If you remember the eclipse was certified with a garmin 496 for navigation! Yikes!

Will the eclipse be limited? What's the cost for a typical well equipped FIKI plane?

What are the specs? Can it meet the expectations?

Not much info on performance?

Where's the chute video?


The icon is also certified.


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision-now certified
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If Cirrus delivers the fifth SF-50 to a customer (to avoid any shenanigans with fake early deliveries, an industry tradition) by Jan 1st, 2018, 3+ years from now and more than 10 years after the program was started, then I will never post again on this forum. If they fail to, you will never post again on this forum.

Have we got a deal? :-)

If you start arguing that 3 years isn't enough time, then you are basically saying the SF-50 really is vaporware right now.
Mike C.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision-now certified
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Hey, can we get this and the other SF50 thread merged?
I want to see what happens to the forum software when we break a 1000 pages... :D

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision-now certified
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Username Protected wrote:
I forget, what time criteria for your bet?

I am curious about the certification.

If you remember the eclipse was certified with a garmin 496 for navigation! Yikes!

Will the eclipse be limited? What's the cost for a typical well equipped FIKI plane?

What are the specs? Can it meet the expectations?

Not much info on performance?

Where's the chute video?


The icon is also certified.


Not quite sure what your point is?

I meant to say will the SF50 be limited not th eclipse? We know the first production eclipse were limited.

It will be interesting to see what the costs and specs of a production SF-50 will be.

Where is the data and the chute video?

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