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 Post subject: Re: Real World Range vs Book Range aka Chip's pet peeve
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No argument from me! What I have found surprising is how fast it can get to altitude.

There is a 15gph difference between FL200 and FL280 and I can get to FL280 in less than 15 minutes. That's a Big help extending range. Its great being able to climb directly to FL280 or FL270 all the time.


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 Post subject: Re: Real World Range vs Book Range aka Chip's pet peeve
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Yep! Departing KSDL, Scottsdale Tower made the mistake of asking us to give them our best rate of climb... two of us, half fuel. Less than two minutes and they were saying "Woah! That's enough!"


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 Post subject: Re: Real World Range vs Book Range
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My longest flight in the CJ3 was 1500nm westbound in January with average 75kt headwind. 4.8 hours and I still landed with almost 1000lbs. I believe this plane could actually come very close to the 1800nm number from cessna assuming a standard day with no wind.


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My longest flight in the CJ3 was 1500nm westbound in January with average 75kt headwind. 4.8 hours and I still landed with almost 1000lbs. I believe this plane could actually come very close to the 1800nm number from cessna assuming a standard day with no wind.


You have a CJ3 and a King Air 350... I'm assuming all is right in your world!


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With 2700lbs on the PC12NG at normal cruise I can punch out just under 5.5 hours. That will have me touching down with about 400lbs. With a no wind range at 270kts that gives just under 1400nm. I plan on 500lbs the first hour and 400lbs every hour past that in the mid to upper 20s.

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Here's a max range for you... King Air 350 from Bellingham, Washington to Georgetown, Texas this morning... 1568 nm aloft for 6 hours 7 minutes!

Obviously pulled back to max range cruise but still impressive.

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Nice for a 350. Mid range for a Merlin. :D

I thought 350's were 300 knot aircraft? That block speed seems low for the winds this morning.


Still impressive range for any King Air and you just know the passengers were comfortable, a strong suite of the line.

Edit: I see you said they pulled power to make the range and hence the lower speed.


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