Here is a link to my new type rating thread.

http://www.beechtalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=121001&view=unread#unread

And on that subject as a new Citation pilot. What are some of the things/problems you all have had/seen/experienced flying the plane.

I know there are a lot of guys here on BT that currently fly or have flown the original series of citations. Just looking for some more of those "there I was stories".

Training was great and really fun to get to experience all the failures and abnormals in the sim. Engine failures, fires, hydraulic failures, electrical failures, pitot heat freezing up.

When they failed one of my AC inverters I immediately went to the peanut gyro and thought of this thread.
http://www.beechtalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=118009&hilit=citation

After I flew on the standby gyro for a few moments I remembered the guy sitting next to me (new to this CRM concept). So I told my right seater, "ok we are on a 270 heading at 10,000ft your plane". Grabbed the checklist and flipped the switch to the other AC inverter and my instruments along with the AP came back online.

The thought went through my head, I wonder if that's what happened to that guy in his 525 over UT? AC failure followed by helmet fire followed by unusual attitude and the end result is known. That's an eye opener right there just the mental exercise!

Any stories of experience or advise you all want to share? Doesn't have to be a near death experience but just good to know stuff.

In the airplane, would the AP come back online just by getting the AC current flowing again? In my plane it does not, I have to engage the AP seperately.

Yeah you have to push the button. The point was that when you loose AC you loose pilot side instruments and the AP. When you get AC back you have pilot side instruments and the AP back available.

I often do it the other way. If I have the plane well under control I tell the PNF to get the checklist out, and read it to me, and we discuss the failure and the response. I get him working, I simply fly straight and level, and we talk through any action and agree on it, before he finds and flips any switches.

Usually you will have more experience and be more proficient then your SIC at hand flying and partial panel. So choose the best pilot to fly the plane.

My motto is don't make a small problem into a big problem. That is what you can do if you rush, don't read the checklist, and don't pause and think though your actions. Very few failures require immediate reflexive actions.

Flying is the easy part.

For me its better to pass that job off and handle the unusual/abnormal.

Its easy to screw up the checklist and make things worse. I would want to have that responsibility.

If you have a weak guy in the right seat he should touch very little.

I often do it the other way. If I have the plane well under control I tell the PNF to get the checklist out, and read it to me, and we discuss the failure and the response. I get him working, I simply fly straight and level, and we talk through any action and agree on it, before he finds and flips any switches.

Usually you will have more experience and be more proficient then your SIC at hand flying and partial panel. So choose the best pilot to fly the plane.

My motto is don't make a small problem into a big problem. That is what you can do if you rush, don't read the checklist, and don't pause and think though your actions. Very few failures require immediate reflexive actions.