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Post subject: Re: Take plane to Europe?  Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 14:57 |
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Quote: Trains will do Paris, Brussels. Nobody should ever fly London to Paris with the Eurostar. Yeah, tell me about it ... When I started flying over 20 years ago, no TGV, no Eurostar no "Low Cost" . Paris to London for a business meeting was something like $900 (90s dollars) but I could rent the aeroclub's 172 WITH a retired airline captain as volunteer instructor for the day and it cost something like just $300, saved time and I got to log hours to boot ! Soon as I got my ticket I bought the Cardinal and it paid for itself in less than 2 years. Alas, the bullet trains & SlEasyJet changed all that ...
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Post subject: Re: Take plane to Europe? Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 17:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: With your Mu2 all of europe is a weekend trip. That was the idea. The problem is that, especially in the fall with short daylight, much of the flying would be at night and that severely limits the number of airports you can use as many close at sunset. So you end up at the big airports which is costly and often complex. Since I and my wife need to positively be back Monday morning, our departure needs to be highly reliable in all weather. Strategies where you depart IMC into class G bother me, particularly with terrain like you find around Switzerland, for example. Quote: Will you work remotely during your wife's europe assignment? Yes, as I did in 2007, I will be putting in 40-60 hours/week running my company remotely. Worked pretty well with video teleconferencing and a VoIP desk phone.
Most of the brits who just jet down to the Algarve for a weekend and stop for an espresso with friends in Milan on the way home have someone who does the flying and planning for them. Europe can be a great place if you are rich enough that issues like parking/handling in Geneva dont even rise to your attention. It's like living in NYC with real money in that regard.
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Post subject: Re: Take plane to Europe? Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 18:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: Europe can be a great place if you are rich enough that issues like parking/handling in Geneva dont even rise to your attention. I do not resemble that remark. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Take plane to Europe? Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 18:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: Europe can be a great place if you are rich enough that issues like parking/handling in Geneva dont even rise to your attention. I do not resemble that remark. Mike C.
Me neither. And they don't hang out on a lowly aviation forum. They talk about their Polo ponies and the only time aviation comes up is if the FO ordered the wrong kind of wild caught salmon for the in-flight snacks.
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Post subject: Re: Take plane to Europe? Posted: 21 Mar 2016, 15:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: ps: I would have given you an A+ but there was one minor error "Customs at small airports is often handled by local police." Customs & Immigration is always handled by Customs & Immigration Officers, period. I remember reading a particular trip report on EuroGA that the customs was handled by a local police guy and the writer seemed to indicate this was not unusual in certain countries. Of course, I can't find that report right now... In any case, apologies for my mistake. Mike C.
Mike, you are right and wrong and as often it depends.
To make it a little bit more complicated I try to explain it:
For example, If you fly from Germany (Schengen) to England (not Schengen but EU) you need no custom
But you need immigration. In this case, Immigration is often done by the local police.
If you fly from Germany (Schengen) to Norway (Schengen but not EU) for example, you still need custom, but no immigration (police). You still need custom because Norway is not a member of the EU, but a member of Schengen. The same with Switzerland, Island and Liechtenstein.
If you fly Into a country outside the EU you need both, immigration and custom.
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