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 Post subject: Re: TeamBezos Beats TeamMusk to Soft Landing
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The vertical landing rocket doesn't have any crew seats, yet. :D


It looked like that thing was pulling 20 G's the last few seconds.

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 Post subject: Re: TeamBezos Beats TeamMusk to Soft Landing
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Blue Origin nailed the soft landing on their first attempt:

http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/11/ ... aceflight/

P. T. Musk was last seen running towards cameras & microphones. <g>

SpaceX has already done this, albeit not from MECO, but then they've demonstrated that capability since.

Not to take away Blue Origin's accomplishment, but what SpaceX is attempting now is leagues more difficult than landing on a pad in the desert.

[youtube]http://youtu.be/ZwwS4YOTbbw[/youtube]

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I'd pay a lot to go to space, but I'd like to stay there more than 4 minutes.

Yup. It just doesn't sound awesome to me. The ROI isn't there.


If it covered you and a special someone, and you had a private room with a few bottles of champagne and could party around weightless while looking out through a huge window at the stars and earth while in orbit for 4 hours or so... well that would be worth a million bucks I'd say.
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We live in a time where "see breathtaking views beyond the biggest windows in space" is an actual marketing pitch.

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If it covered you and a special someone, and you had a private room with a few bottles of champagne and could party around weightless while looking out through a huge window at the stars and earth while in orbit for 4 hours or so... well that would be worth a million bucks I'd say.

Yes. I would do that.

Risking my life for 4 minutes of weightlessness while wearing a diaper is not my idea of a good time.


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We live in a time where "see breathtaking views beyond the biggest windows in space" is an actual marketing pitch.

Well, it is still just a cartoon on a YouTube video. Will be interesting to see when it actually happens.


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Awesome. I'm sure Elon agrees!

Elon is trying to land a heavy booster that puts things in orbit, on a platform that is hundreds of miles away after reaching far higher altitudes.

Bezos is trying to land a very small rocket which went basically straight up for only 100 km height.

The two problems are radically different.

The two goals are also radically different. 4 minutes of zero G is toy like compared to lifting objects into orbit.

As to landing a rocket, here's what SpaceX did 2.5 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxKWh7kLDzw

Not to 100 km obviously, but the point of the test was to land, and thus they did land a rocket vertically well before Bezos.

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