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 Post subject: Re: A380; Reconfig for 615 Souls
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How long would it take to evacuate one of these monsters? Don't have any knowledge of these airplanes; jus' askin' :scratch:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gqWeJGwV_U


That was pretty interesting. But it is completely unbelievable that it could be done in an actual emergency. Several years ago a number of us on BT participated in the FAA's survival program here in Oklahoma City. One of the the challenges we were given was to evacuate an airliner fuselage which had been pumped completely full of theatrical smoke. Despite practice, knowing what we were going to be required to do, a minuscule number of people in comparison to seats and the advantage of 100% of us being able bodied and spring loaded to move and cooperate we couldn't make it out in the required time. The FAA then showed us a film of a similar evacuation experiment where volunteers were promised money for the first 20 or so out of the plane to simulate the primal behavior of humans threatened with their lives. The first half dozen or so people got stuck in the doorway and no one got out.

If you're not in an exit row your chances of egress from one of these monsters is very limited.

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 Post subject: Re: A380; Reconfig for 615 Souls
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 Post subject: Re: A380; Reconfig for 615 Souls
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But it is completely unbelievable that it could be done in an actual emergency.

I would have agreed with you. The test is contrived and the people know it is coming, so that should make the test invalid.

Well, until it actually happens for real.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_358

After coming to rest, fire was noticed outside the aircraft, and an evacuation order was given. The two rear left exits remained closed due to the fire. On opening the emergency exits, one of the right middle exit slides (R3) deflated after being punctured by debris from the aircraft, while one of the left slides (L2) failed to deploy at all for unknown reasons. A number of passengers were forced to jump from the aircraft to exit. The actions of the flight attendants, who ensured that all of the passengers quickly evacuated, contributed to the safe escape of all passengers. The first officer was the last to leave the plane, which was evacuated within the required 90 second time frame.

This was not expected, plane was on fire, plane was damaged, some exits did not work, plane not on level ground, embedded in trees, at night, in heavy rain, with tired passengers from an 8 hour flight.

All in under 90 seconds.

Can't be any better validation than that.

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Just did the LA-Sydney flt last week on a Delta 777. That was 14 miserable hrs. Not an empty seat. Already dreading the return trip next month.


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