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Post subject: Re: MIG 21 PF selling on Trade-A-Plane Posted: 28 Oct 2015, 13:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: I just can't imagine checking in on the frequency as "Fishbed 121MG". There's no 'cool' in being a "Fishbed". THIS on the other hand, is cool. Wonder what it would cost to maintain that? 
All of it, plus a little more.
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Post subject: Re: MIG 21 PF selling on Trade-A-Plane Posted: 28 Oct 2015, 13:35 |
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[ Username Protected wrote: I just can't imagine checking in on the frequency as "Fishbed 121MG". There's no 'cool' in being a "Fishbed". THIS on the other hand, is cool. Wonder what it would cost to maintain that? 
I know what it costs to insure that particular Mig 29!
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Post subject: Re: MIG 21 PF selling on Trade-A-Plane Posted: 28 Oct 2015, 18:41 |
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Funny how different people have different reactions to the varying features of different planes, boats, motorcycles, ....... The Mig21 was a serious fighter. I sat in one many years back and, yes, you could trace the workmanship on the airframe to Peoples Revolutionary Boiler Works No. 12 but it worked and it worked more reliably than its US adversaries. In spite of those stubby wings it was actually more lightly wing loaded than the Phantoms and Crusaders and was a bitch to see head or tail on as a result. They were at a slight disadvantage below 12,000' but would win above 18,000'. We know because we were flying them against our front line fighters of thee day in a program called Have Drill or Have Idea, I forget which. When they put test pilots in the cockpits, the reactions and results mirrored some of the comments here but when, at the end of the program, they put fighter pilots in the cockpits, they started kicking ass. One of those was the late, great John "Smash" Nash who told me he figured the ejection seat was better than ours and would get him out of trouble if he screwed up so he started flying it to its limits and found it was a beautiful machine with the best rudder for slow airspeed, high AOA maneuvers that he'd ever used. And they just didn't break down. They were designed to be operated off of unimproved runways, repaired in tents by semi-literate Russian teenagers using ball peen hammers and pipe wrenches. I would never underestimate a Mig as an adversary and I wouldn't hesitate to jump at the chance to fly one-as long as it was someone else's checkbook backing me up. 
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