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Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Oct 2015, 21:02

Username Protected wrote:

Do all the turbine commanders have the lav between the pilots and the cabin without hard doors?

Never seen one with hard doors or the lab anywhere else, but maybe Bruce has?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Oct 2015, 21:13

My lav is used often on long trips. Women are appreciative of the fact that they have complete privacy in the rear behind a closed solid door. No smell in the cabin ever since the outflow valve is further back behind the lav yet.

Mine is for use whenever someone needs to use it, not just emergency use. The factory setup for the lav sucks, the way mine is setup makes servicing it a non event.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Oct 2015, 21:50

Username Protected wrote:

My lav is used often on long trips. Women are appreciative of the fact that they have complete privacy in the rear behind a closed solid door. No smell in the cabin ever since the outflow valve is further back behind the lav yet.

Mine is for use whenever someone needs to use it, not just emergency use. The factory setup for the lav sucks, the way mine is setup makes servicing it a non event.

Mine is too. I take 5 bags of kitty litter and clean up is a non-event. I just don't like to encourage it.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Oct 2015, 22:07

The pilot who flew my aircraft before me also used kitty litter. I tried it for one trip and realized it was not the right way to go. The kitty litter, once loaded with liquid, moves around and tends to cause even the toughest garbage bags to leak.

http://noodor.com/p/urine-travel-john-t ... bsorb.html

I found this powder which gels when it becomes wet and basically eliminates foul odor. Upon landing pull tabs on garbage bag and throw away, no stink and no leaks. The kittly litter is like sand and is abrasive when wet causing leaky bags. The gel is not abrasive, no leaks.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Oct 2015, 22:13

Username Protected wrote:

The pilot who flew my aircraft before me also used kitty litter. I tried it for one trip and realized it was not the right way to go. The kitty litter, once loaded with liquid, moves around and tends to cause even the toughest garbage bags to leak.

http://www.amazon.com/Smelleze®-Urine-Solidifier-Deodorizer-Granules/dp/B004SBOUBM/ref=pd_sim_194_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=1J6AR1DH7Z94MC33RZRS

I found this powder which gels when it becomes wet and basically eliminates foul odor. Upon landing pull tabs on garbage bag and throw away, no stink and no leaks. The kittly litter is like sand and is abrasive when wet causing leaky bags. The gel is not abrasive, no leaks.

It is simply amazing to me that, in a plane that costs more than a upscale 5 bedroom house in a nice neighborhood, we are reduced to pooping in cat litter. This has to be absurd to non pilots. It is to me too.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Oct 2015, 22:24

Username Protected wrote:

...we are reduced to pooping in cat litter. This has to be absurd to non pilots.

I'd rather my passengers feel absurd than they couldn't hold it any more.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Oct 2015, 23:29

Username Protected wrote:

My lav is used often on long trips. Women are appreciative of the fact that they have complete privacy in the rear behind a closed solid door. No smell in the cabin ever since the outflow valve is further back behind the lav yet.

Mine is for use whenever someone needs to use it, not just emergency use. The factory setup for the lav sucks, the way mine is setup makes servicing it a non event.

Mine is too. I take 5 bags of kitty litter and clean up is a non-event. I just don't like to encourage it.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Oct 2015, 05:24

Username Protected wrote:

The pilot who flew my aircraft before me also used kitty litter. I tried it for one trip and realized it was not the right way to go. The kitty litter, once loaded with liquid, moves around and tends to cause even the toughest garbage bags to leak.

http://www.amazon.com/Smelleze®-Urine-Solidifier-Deodorizer-Granules/dp/B004SBOUBM/ref=pd_sim_194_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=1J6AR1DH7Z94MC33RZRS

I found this powder which gels when it becomes wet and basically eliminates foul odor. Upon landing pull tabs on garbage bag and throw away, no stink and no leaks. The kittly litter is like sand and is abrasive when wet causing leaky bags. The gel is not abrasive, no leaks.

It is simply amazing to me that, in a plane that costs more than a upscale 5 bedroom house in a nice neighborhood, we are reduced to pooping in cat litter. This has to be absurd to non pilots. It is to me too.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Oct 2015, 08:10

Best lav solution is wal-mart camp toilet bags filled with above mentioned gel powder inside a giant zip loc bag. Easy, no mess and about $5/use.