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 Post subject: Re: Finishing my Lancair ES-TN
PostPosted: 06 May 2015, 10:11 
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Beautiful! Do they still sell the ES? I always loved that airplane, it reminds me of the old Wheeler Express


No they no longer produce the ES. All they build now is the goofy looking Evolution and the Legacy RG/FG. Its such a great airplane.

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 Post subject: Re: Finishing my Lancair ES-TN
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What is goofy looking about the Evo? I've always liked it

The real serious "evolution" is their "Epic" design that is now pending certification

That's the real drooler for me, but i LOVE my ES, there are a few out there for sale that are an absolute value, and I'm surprised more people aren't educated on them


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 Post subject: Re: Finishing my Lancair ES-TN
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It doesnt have the signature windows of a Lancair. You can tell Lance was not involved in the design process of the Evolution. Putting the traditional windows would do wonders for it from a styling standpoint.

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I like the Evolution a ton but it's a little hard to get into it AND it's very expensive for a 4 seat aircraft.

I think it would be very hard to sell it too.


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Brian,

Absolutely the nicest ES interior I have ever seen. I have owned an ES-P since 2009. I love it. It is highly capable and efficient. I am sad to say we have it for sale. We decided to have a third child so it has been a bit cramped in the back seat for my wife and the 2 littles. My oldest son who is 7 y/o sits up from with me. I bought a CE-T310R for the extra carrying capacity. Where did you have the interior finished?? I love the Bentley seats.


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Who made the seats? I really like that "Bentley-type" diamond square pattern.

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 Post subject: Re: Finishing my Lancair ES-TN
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Who made the seats? I really like that "Bentley-type" diamond square pattern.


I worked with Joe @ JPM Coachworks who has a very good reputation in the car world, I was referred to them by Ferrari of Atlanta. The seats were already made, his job was to reupholster them, in the process, he reworked the foam and did other tweaks as he saw necessary

I initially wanted to do the diamond stitching in the same color as the leather, to make it a little less pronounced, but in reading my notes to them- i never specified that, so they did it with the accent, and it was a GOOD mistake, i really like the way it turned out, and it's incredibly soft and comfortable, did I mention they put heaters in too for the cold winter months?

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Good job landing on the centerline! I always heard that they saved the centerline for captains. :D


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Good job landing on the centerline! I always heard that they saved the centerline for captains. :D


I heard that from someone a couple years back in the MU2...

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And here's today's flight, returning in time for Mother's Day dinner

[youtube]http://youtu.be/fhZGh9AsUl0[/youtube]


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Excellent Thread Gents.

I hope this is not taken as a thread diversion. Please let me know and i can delete an start a new thread.

I'd love to own one of these birds but i'm uneducated about them...infact, i keep going between a twin of a HP single...I'll primarily be flying many 200-500nm trips w some 1000+nm trips a few times a year. The piston twin would give me peace of mind for the long trips especially if i made the return trip at night.

Several things that give me pause:

1. Build/Structural Quality: Is it safe to assume that if a plane has several hundred hours on it or more, this is a non-issue? if one had any issues, how prevalent are Lanciar experienced A&Ps?

2. Insurance: While I have1,500TT & 200+hrs Multi with CFI/CFII/MEI ratings, i have zero time in lancairs (except about 10mins demo flight of Corvalis 400).

3. Maintenance: Any ADs or other recurring Mx issues?

4. Roominess: after many hours in training aircraft, i'd really prefer to not rub elbows with anyone again. Does the plane feel cramped up front (i wont be flying fromthe back seats).

Thanks again in advance.


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1. Of course getting a good prebuy as with anything, check for build documentation and builder experience- I'd avoid budget builds and a buying a project someone ran out of money on, a corner cut where you can see it makes you wonder what's hidden

2. Insurance is about $6000 a year for $300k hull

3. Same maintenance as any composite bird, other than no chute to repack

4. I think it's roomier than the cirrus I flew


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I like the Evolution a ton but it's a little hard to get into it AND it's very expensive for a 4 seat aircraft.

I think it would be very hard to sell it too.


I have a plane crush on the Evolution. It is, however, only 4 seats. . .not a lot of payload. We travel with company a bit. The price factor worries me because of potential resell value as an experimental. I see them sit on the market for a while. It is an amazing performer and sexy. I wonder how it would do with a PT6A-135A? Pretty awesome, I bet.

OP. Beautiful Plane. :)


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