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 Post subject: Re: New V-Tail jet that burns 18 GPH
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When I had dinner with the guys last evening they got a chuckle out of the fact this thread is going on.
The comment was, "Tell them to order one"!
Without props I could tuck in even tighter Jay.


Did the subject of a 2-seater come up? Just wondering....


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 Post subject: Re: New V-Tail jet that burns 18 GPH
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When I had dinner with the guys last evening they got a chuckle out of the fact this thread is going on.
The comment was, "Tell them to order one"!
Without props I could tuck in even tighter Jay.


Tell them to build a 2-seater with a parachute that will outperform my Glasair and I will order one. I don't care if it burns 2x the fuel as long as it has some range.

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Tell them to build a 2-seater with a parachute that will outperform my Glasair and I will order one. I don't care if it burns 2x the fuel as long as it has some range.

It is called a Cirrus SF50, 2 place when full fuel, parachute, only about $2.5M.

It does burn about 5x fuel, though.

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Tell them to build a 2-seater with a parachute that will outperform my Glasair and I will order one. I don't care if it burns 2x the fuel as long as it has some range.

It is called a Cirrus SF50, 2 place when full fuel, parachute, only about $2.5M.

It does burn about 5x fuel, though.

Mike C.


The Cirrus is certificated, meaning 2x or 3x purchase price and total cost of ownership compared to a kit build.

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3D printing will be the next big thing, just like the PC was. Lots of items in a jet engine will come down by a factor of 10 in the future. Instead of individual turbine blades at thousands of dollars each, a complete compressor stage (or even multiple stages) could be printed for the same price. I believe NASA has printed a 50,000 hp. turbo pump for a rocket engine.

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It is called a Cirrus SF50, 2 place when full fuel, parachute, only about $2.5M.

It does burn about 5x fuel, though.


Yep, that is insane. My old TS-11 Iskra was a better airplane. $100k for 325 knots at FL320 burning 100 GPH. Simple systems, large baggage compartment, and easy to fly. It had TWO parachutes and they were $100/yr to check and re-pack. Looking back, I should have kept the plane. It was a good x-country machine.

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