BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Jul 2014, 07:03

The only other major airports that scans GA that I'm aware off are Baltimore and Ohare.

No scanning at places like MDW, IAD, JFK, LGA, SFO, LAX etc ..

Go figure.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Jul 2014, 07:25

I have yet to need to go to BOS but like others said they don't want small planes there, from a business point of view I get it, even going there with a 404 and filling the 340 gal tanks that does not hold a candle to a G-V. Not saying I think it is fair but I understand. That said if you have a reason like Neal did how much is your time worth?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Aug 2014, 21:33

Username Protected wrote:

I had to go through a metal detector and put my bag through an x-ray machine at Signature at BOS last month AND those greedy bastards charged me $58.80 for it! Dont pay any attention to the blueberry... I didnt have a napkin and couldnt think of a better way to use a receipt with insane charges on it. That was for five days of parking without buying any of their almost $9/gallon fuel. I asked if they could wave the fees if I bought a bunch of fuel, but was told that it makes no difference and no fees are wavable.

Wonder if anyone contests the charges?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 07 Aug 2014, 00:02

Everyone needs to make a nice profit. It's all about what the market will bear. After all, " we're not communists". (Don Barzini).

Username Protected · **Posted:** 07 Aug 2014, 00:14

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Trying to think through this. What would they do if you are intentionally carrying a firearm in your plane. X-ray it. Confirm that's what it is , and send you on your way ? I sort of get the crewed 757 argument, but when you are the pilot in command, you determine what goes on your plane. Even cites with the most restrictive gun laws (at least the ones I have read) allow you to carry a cased firearm in your vehicle on the way to/from target practice. So, what would be the legal basis for not allowing you to take a firearm on your personal plane ? The even more bizarre corner case would be if you are also the sole occupant ? Hard to be PIC if you don't "take control of the plane."

We'll probably need someone else to provide the final answer, but is it not against the law to be in possession of any pistol or revolver in the big gun control states, even if properly licensed in a pilots home state?

I though as far as BOS, NY, and Chicago were concerned if you were found in possession, you were guilty. So if the FBO screening found a weapon, they called the police and off to jail you went.

What am I missing?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 07 Aug 2014, 00:21

Username Protected wrote:

At some weight you have to operate 121. No part 91 allowed. Suspect that is what gets you. Gulf streams don't have that.

FAR 125 allows large aircraft to operate privately, they don't have to be 121. The FAA couldn't keep track of all of the operators if they had to be 121.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Aug 2014, 13:02

Greg,

Not a gun but "weapons"...a friend of mine (Jeff Uphoff) used to own a Mooney and did a lot of short notice travel fixing computers for things like banks (money no object, get it fixed!). He flew up to KBOS in the Mooney and took his tools with him. When the repair work at the bank was done, he returned to KBOS to board his plane. They said the tool bag had weapons (wire cutters, pliers, a knife, screwdrivers, etc.). He said yes, they were his, he was the sole pilot and occupant of the plane and they could escort him out, watch him close the door, start up and depart. They would not let him do this...he ended up having to spend something like $100 to Fedex his tool bag home....

Common sense and security are not aligned in Boston....

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Aug 2014, 13:42

Username Protected wrote:

The only other major airports that scans GA that I'm aware off are Baltimore and Ohare.

Hmm, I've never been scanned at BWI. It's probably been 2 years since I've been in there, but I've been in there a bunch after 9/11 (for Orioles/Red Sox games) and never even saw a scanner at Signature, let alone been scanned.

I wonder if it's new?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Aug 2014, 20:21

In response to Remy;s original question, I think the weight is 98,500lbs. A DC-9-10 is the largest aircraft to fall below the weight. So no matter how it is operated (91, 121,125) above this weight for every flight the PIC must do or delegate that every PAX has a security screening for person and bags and is verified NOT to be on the TSA no fly list. Yes there can be be a gun or guns on board for the owners security, but anyone on the TSA no fly list can't even legally ride on a private B757.

Cheers, Doug

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Aug 2014, 22:03

Username Protected wrote:

The only other major airports that scans GA that I'm aware off are Baltimore and Ohare.

Hmm, I've never been scanned at BWI. It's probably been 2 years since I've been in there, but I've been in there a bunch after 9/11 (for Orioles/Red Sox games) and never even saw a scanner at Signature, let alone been scanned.

I wonder if it's new?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Aug 2014, 07:41

Yep, sorry I was mistaken about BWI. There is no screening. You do go through a security check point to get access to the ramp and then you have to be escorted to and from the plane.

I do find it amusing that I can fly the jet into the airport but once I get to Signature I have to wait on the plane till an employee comes out to escort me into the FBO.

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