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Post subject: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair Posted: 09 Apr 2025, 17:44 |
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Joined: 02/08/20 Posts: 97 Post Likes: +40 Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
Aircraft: BE 35-B33
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FOR SALE $90,000 OBO 1963 Beechcraft 35-B33 Debonair N8603M s/n CD-658 < 3,700 TTA Engine - 7XX SMOH Propeller 100 SN STIPULATION OF SALE - Engine tear down inspection/IRAN or replacement by buyer at KTOA prior to ANY buyer operation - liability requirement. TCM IO-470K McCauley 2A37C223-C Full-flow oil filter Walker Air-Sep One (1) pilot/mechanic last (48) years. Always hangared, NDH Original paint & older interior Complete logs & records from new All ADs current, annual due 2/26. Low cycles - never a trainer Steam gauges Wing leveler Heated pitot One-piece windshield Cleveland wheels & brakes, recent reseal, linings & hoses. Single yoke - L.H. brakes only Fuel cells '05 - 80 gallons Front seat belts/shoulder harnesses '16 Rudder spar STC fittings installed - no recurring AD Recent good rubber Recent battery 9/24 Narco CP-136 audio panel, Bendix T-12C ADF, Michel MX-11 com (760), Michel MX-12 Nav/com (720), Narco Nav-122 VOR/ILS/Mkr bcn, , Narco VOA-4 VOR, Narco DME-890, Bendix TR-611 Xpdr, Transcal D-120 Encoder, uAvionix SkyBeacon ADS-B out, avionics master, PTT. Spares/support equipment (aircraft jack, engine stand, cylinders, special tools etc.), manuals available separately. . Aircraft is well rigged, straight, tight, and very well maintained, not a "new P&I" junker. Flown each 1-2 weeks. A "diamond in the rough", this Debonair is an excellent candidate and solid basis for upgrades as desired, or IRAN/replace the engine and fly it. . Richard Arabian (310) 322-4383 rja4383@yahoo.com
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair Posted: 09 Apr 2025, 17:52 |
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So, I'll be the guinea pig........what's with the engine teardown/overhaul stipulation if the a/c has NDH? Been sitting for a while?
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair Posted: 09 Apr 2025, 18:12 |
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Joined: 02/08/20 Posts: 97 Post Likes: +40 Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
Aircraft: BE 35-B33
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Nope, not sitting, as the ad indicates. I overhauled the engine and wish to avoid any possible litigation when and if the next owner craters the engine from poor operating habits. Very possible scenario. I have better things to do than hire legal counsel for a baseless suit.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair Posted: 09 Apr 2025, 21:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: Nope, not sitting, as the ad indicates. I overhauled the engine and wish to avoid any possible litigation when and if the next owner craters the engine from poor operating habits. Very possible scenario. I have better things to do than hire legal counsel for a baseless suit. Wouldn't and "as is" clause in the sales contract accomplish the same thing?
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair Posted: 10 Apr 2025, 14:31 |
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Joined: 02/08/20 Posts: 97 Post Likes: +40 Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
Aircraft: BE 35-B33
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[FaceBookVideo][/FaceBookVideo] Username Protected wrote: Nope, not sitting, as the ad indicates. I overhauled the engine and wish to avoid any possible litigation when and if the next owner craters the engine from poor operating habits. Very possible scenario. I have better things to do than hire legal counsel for a baseless suit. Wouldn't and "as is" clause in the sales contract accomplish the same thing?
"As is" is not even close to a guarantee against liability My signature is in the logbook as the overhauler.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair Posted: 10 Apr 2025, 14:34 |
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Joined: 02/08/20 Posts: 97 Post Likes: +40 Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
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Yes, I personally overhauled the engine. I am an A&P/IA with all the required equipment and manuals.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair Posted: 10 Apr 2025, 14:36 |
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Joined: 02/08/20 Posts: 97 Post Likes: +40 Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
Aircraft: BE 35-B33
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Username Protected wrote: Well, tearing down a perfectly good engine seems like a great way to guarantee trouble-free motoring for a long, long time. :thumbup: Engines frequently don't come close to reaching TBO, primarily the result of operator error.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair Posted: 10 Apr 2025, 14:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: Well, tearing down a perfectly good engine seems like a great way to guarantee trouble-free motoring for a long, long time.  Engines frequently don't come close to reaching TBO, primarily the result of operator error.
If you share the operator-errors that can prematurely kill an engine, I think the prospective buyers will have a better understanding of your engine overhaul's likely quality.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair Posted: 10 Apr 2025, 15:38 |
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What year was the engine overhauled?
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair Posted: 11 Apr 2025, 15:27 |
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Joined: 02/08/20 Posts: 97 Post Likes: +40 Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
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Username Protected wrote: Richard, this is a pretty interesting stipulation. I don't think I've ever seen that before.
What do you see as the minimum amount of teardown and what level of inspetion would meet your requirements?
FYI for others: KTOA is Torrance Municipal Airport - Zamperini Field A complete disassembly. That would pass liability to the mechanic signing off the teardown/IRAN. Another option would be an STC installation of a different model engine - several exist. Remember - engines come and go, airframes are the permanent basis for the aircraft.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair Posted: 11 Apr 2025, 15:32 |
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Joined: 10/05/11 Posts: 9991 Post Likes: +7038 Company: Hausch LLC, rep. Power/mation Location: Milwaukee, WI (KMKE)
Aircraft: 1963 Debonair B33
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Username Protected wrote: A complete disassembly. That would pass liability to the mechanic signing off the teardown/IRAN. Another option would be an STC installation of a different model engine - several exist. Remember - engines come and go, airframes are the permanent basis for the aircraft. Would money sit in escrow while this happens? Can the buyer do this in your hangar rent-free?
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