banner
banner

01 May 2025, 15:16 [ UTC - 5; DST ]


Garmin International (Banner)



Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Username Protected Message
 Post subject: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2025, 17:44 
Offline


 Profile




Joined: 02/08/20
Posts: 97
Post Likes: +40
Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
Aircraft: BE 35-B33
FOR SALE

$90,000 OBO


1963 Beechcraft 35-B33 Debonair N8603M s/n CD-658

< 3,700 TTA Engine - 7XX SMOH Propeller 100 SN

STIPULATION OF SALE - Engine tear down inspection/IRAN or replacement by buyer at KTOA prior to ANY buyer operation - liability requirement.

TCM IO-470K McCauley 2A37C223-C
Full-flow oil filter
Walker Air-Sep
One (1) pilot/mechanic last (48) years.
Always hangared, NDH
Original paint & older interior
Complete logs & records from new
All ADs current, annual due 2/26.
Low cycles - never a trainer
Steam gauges
Wing leveler
Heated pitot
One-piece windshield
Cleveland wheels & brakes, recent reseal, linings & hoses.
Single yoke - L.H. brakes only
Fuel cells '05 - 80 gallons
Front seat belts/shoulder harnesses '16
Rudder spar STC fittings installed - no recurring AD
Recent good rubber
Recent battery 9/24
Narco CP-136 audio panel, Bendix T-12C ADF, Michel MX-11 com (760), Michel MX-12 Nav/com (720), Narco Nav-122 VOR/ILS/Mkr bcn, , Narco VOA-4 VOR, Narco DME-890, Bendix TR-611 Xpdr, Transcal D-120 Encoder, uAvionix SkyBeacon ADS-B out, avionics master, PTT.

Spares/support equipment (aircraft jack, engine stand, cylinders, special tools etc.), manuals available separately. .
Aircraft is well rigged, straight, tight, and very well maintained, not a "new P&I" junker. Flown each 1-2 weeks. A "diamond in the rough", this Debonair is an excellent candidate and solid basis for upgrades as desired, or IRAN/replace the engine and fly it. . Richard Arabian (310) 322-4383
rja4383@yahoo.com


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2025, 17:52 
Offline


 Profile




Joined: 09/11/09
Posts: 5889
Post Likes: +5134
Company: Middle of the country company
Location: Tulsa, Ok
Aircraft: Rebooting.......
So, I'll be the guinea pig........what's with the engine teardown/overhaul stipulation if the a/c has NDH? Been sitting for a while?

_________________
Three things tell the truth:
Little kids
Drunks
Yoga pants

Actually, four things.....
Cycling kit..


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2025, 18:12 
Offline


 Profile




Joined: 02/08/20
Posts: 97
Post Likes: +40
Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
Aircraft: BE 35-B33
Nope, not sitting, as the ad indicates. I overhauled the engine and wish to avoid any possible litigation when and if the next owner craters the engine from poor operating habits. Very possible scenario. I have better things to do than hire legal counsel for a baseless suit.


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2025, 21:43 
Offline




User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 12/10/07
Posts: 34620
Post Likes: +13248
Location: Minneapolis, MN (KFCM)
Aircraft: 1970 Baron B55
Username Protected wrote:
Nope, not sitting, as the ad indicates. I overhauled the engine and wish to avoid any possible litigation when and if the next owner craters the engine from poor operating habits. Very possible scenario. I have better things to do than hire legal counsel for a baseless suit.

Wouldn't and "as is" clause in the sales contract accomplish the same thing?

_________________
-lance

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2025, 22:06 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 01/31/10
Posts: 13355
Post Likes: +7436
Company: 320 Fam
Aircraft: 58TC, E-55, 195
Are you saying you personally OH’d the engine? (You turned the wrenches)

_________________
Views are my own and don’t represent employers or clients
My E55 : https://tinyurl.com/4dvxhwxu


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2025, 09:17 
Offline



User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 07/14/14
Posts: 8048
Post Likes: +10167
Location: Georgia, VT (KFSO)
Aircraft: 1962 Debonair B33
Well, tearing down a perfectly good engine seems like a great way to guarantee trouble-free motoring for a long, long time. :thumbup:

_________________
jh

Planes don’t care how much money you have. They only care how much money they need.


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2025, 14:31 
Offline


 Profile




Joined: 02/08/20
Posts: 97
Post Likes: +40
Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
Aircraft: BE 35-B33
[FaceBookVideo][/FaceBookVideo]
Username Protected wrote:
Nope, not sitting, as the ad indicates. I overhauled the engine and wish to avoid any possible litigation when and if the next owner craters the engine from poor operating habits. Very possible scenario. I have better things to do than hire legal counsel for a baseless suit.

Wouldn't and "as is" clause in the sales contract accomplish the same thing?



"As is" is not even close to a guarantee against liability My signature is in the logbook as the overhauler.

Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2025, 14:34 
Offline


 Profile




Joined: 02/08/20
Posts: 97
Post Likes: +40
Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
Aircraft: BE 35-B33
Yes, I personally overhauled the engine. I am an A&P/IA with all the required equipment and manuals.


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2025, 14:36 
Offline


 Profile




Joined: 02/08/20
Posts: 97
Post Likes: +40
Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
Aircraft: BE 35-B33
Username Protected wrote:
Well, tearing down a perfectly good engine seems like a great way to guarantee trouble-free motoring for a long, long time. :thumbup:



Engines frequently don't come close to reaching TBO, primarily the result of operator error.


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2025, 14:59 
Offline


 Profile




Joined: 06/07/19
Posts: 377
Post Likes: +822
Username Protected wrote:
Well, tearing down a perfectly good engine seems like a great way to guarantee trouble-free motoring for a long, long time. :thumbup:



Engines frequently don't come close to reaching TBO, primarily the result of operator error.


If you share the operator-errors that can prematurely kill an engine, I think the prospective buyers will have a better understanding of your engine overhaul's likely quality.

Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2025, 15:16 
Offline



User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 10/05/11
Posts: 9991
Post Likes: +7038
Company: Hausch LLC, rep. Power/mation
Location: Milwaukee, WI (KMKE)
Aircraft: 1963 Debonair B33
Richard, this is a pretty interesting stipulation. I don't think I've ever seen that before.

What do you see as the minimum amount of teardown and what level of inspetion would meet your requirements?

FYI for others: KTOA is
Torrance Municipal Airport - Zamperini Field

_________________
Be Nice


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2025, 15:35 
Offline




 WWW  Profile




Joined: 02/06/08
Posts: 482
Post Likes: +73
Company: Midland Avionics, LLC.
Location: Louisville, KY (KLOU)
Aircraft: 1971 Duke A60
Why don't you just advertise the airplane with NO engine then? This is hands down the weirdest selling contingency I've ever seen.

_________________
Sincerely,

Eric Bromschwig
Midland Avionics, LLC.
eric@midlandavionics.com
(502) 333-8474


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2025, 15:38 
Online


 Profile




Joined: 04/16/16
Posts: 951
Post Likes: +572
What year was the engine overhauled?


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 11 Apr 2025, 15:27 
Offline


 Profile




Joined: 02/08/20
Posts: 97
Post Likes: +40
Location: KTOA (rja4383@yahoo.com)
Aircraft: BE 35-B33
Username Protected wrote:
Richard, this is a pretty interesting stipulation. I don't think I've ever seen that before.

What do you see as the minimum amount of teardown and what level of inspetion would meet your requirements?

FYI for others: KTOA is
Torrance Municipal Airport - Zamperini Field



A complete disassembly. That would pass liability to the mechanic signing off the teardown/IRAN. Another option would be an STC installation of a different model engine - several exist. Remember - engines come and go, airframes are the permanent basis for the aircraft.


Top

 Post subject: Re: FS: 1963 BE35-B33 Debonair
PostPosted: 11 Apr 2025, 15:32 
Offline



User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 10/05/11
Posts: 9991
Post Likes: +7038
Company: Hausch LLC, rep. Power/mation
Location: Milwaukee, WI (KMKE)
Aircraft: 1963 Debonair B33
Username Protected wrote:
A complete disassembly. That would pass liability to the mechanic signing off the teardown/IRAN. Another option would be an STC installation of a different model engine - several exist. Remember - engines come and go, airframes are the permanent basis for the aircraft.


Would money sit in escrow while this happens? Can the buyer do this in your hangar rent-free?

_________________
Be Nice


Top

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next



Aviation Fabricators (Bottom Banner)

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  

Terms of Service | Forum FAQ | Contact Us

BeechTalk, LLC is the quintessential Beechcraft Owners & Pilots Group providing a forum for the discussion of technical, practical, and entertaining issues relating to all Beech aircraft. These include the Bonanza (both V-tail and straight-tail models), Baron, Debonair, Duke, Twin Bonanza, King Air, Sierra, Skipper, Sport, Sundowner, Musketeer, Travel Air, Starship, Queen Air, BeechJet, and Premier lines of airplanes, turboprops, and turbojets.

BeechTalk, LLC is not affiliated or endorsed by the Beechcraft Corporation, its subsidiaries, or affiliates. Beechcraft™, King Air™, and Travel Air™ are the registered trademarks of the Beechcraft Corporation.

Copyright© BeechTalk, LLC 2007-2025

.aviationdesigndouble.jpg.
.Rocky-Mountain-Turbine-85x100.jpg.
.MountainAirframe.jpg.
.ABS-85x100.jpg.
.stanmusikame-85x50.jpg.
.Elite-85x50.png.
.shortnnumbers-85x100.png.
.boomerang-85x50-2023-12-17.png.
.gallagher_85x50.jpg.
.bkool-85x50-2014-08-04.jpg.
.daytona.jpg.
.pdi-85x50.jpg.
.jetacq-85x50.jpg.
.airmart-85x150.png.
.aerox_85x100.png.
.sierratrax-85x50.png.
.KalAir_Black.jpg.
.planelogix-85x100-2015-04-15.jpg.
.dbm.jpg.
.Wingman 85x50.png.
.CiESVer2.jpg.
.tat-85x100.png.
.holymicro-85x50.jpg.
.garmin-85x200-2021-11-22.jpg.
.lucysaviation-85x50.png.
.Wentworth_85x100.JPG.
.KingAirMaint85_50.png.
.centex-85x50.jpg.
.wilco-85x100.png.
.temple-85x100-2015-02-23.jpg.
.kadex-85x50.jpg.
.geebee-85x50.jpg.
.midwest2.jpg.
.Latitude.jpg.
.avfab-85x50-2018-12-04.png.
.blackwell-85x50.png.
.headsetsetc_Small_85x50.jpg.
.saint-85x50.jpg.
.wat-85x50.jpg.
.puremedical-85x200.jpg.
.kingairnation-85x50.png.
.SCA.jpg.
.ssv-85x50-2023-12-17.jpg.
.jandsaviation-85x50.jpg.
.tempest.jpg.
.concorde.jpg.
.camguard.jpg.
.mcfarlane-85x50.png.
.bpt-85x50-2019-07-27.jpg.
.performanceaero-85x50.jpg.
.ocraviation-85x50.png.
.blackhawk-85x100-2019-09-25.jpg.
.bullardaviation-85x50-2.jpg.
.traceaviation-85x150.png.