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Post subject: Re: FS:1966 Rockwell Aero Commander 680V Posted: 23 Nov 2023, 12:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: In contrast, a TPE331-10 engine will hold 665 HP to FL180-200 at ISA.
Mike C.
Keep in mind that a -10 that’s 665HP is a significantly derated engine. The -10 makes 940HP in the SA226, and over 1000HP wet. It’s temp limited on the ground above ISA if I remember right.
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Post subject: Re: FS:1966 Rockwell Aero Commander 680V Posted: 23 Nov 2023, 19:22 |
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Joined: 12/17/13 Posts: 6365 Post Likes: +5545 Location: Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA
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The supplement stuff after the -1 conversion is a joke in my POH, but I'll see if I can scan in a few relevant documents. But there won't be updated performance numbers like Bradley said, one just have to kinda know it performs better. One thing is speed - the old 43BL engined ones barely broke 220kts up high, this will do 245-250ktas all day.
As for takeoff performance and not very scientific: but at home airport, KEMT, which has 4300ft rwy, I'm usually off, full tanks, just me, in just a little more than half on a hot California day. My estimate about 2300ft. Same thing on landing - if you do light reversing she'll stop in plenty of time to get off the E taxiway on rwy 19. If you go hard, she can do taxiway D.
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Post subject: Re: FS:1966 Rockwell Aero Commander 680V Posted: 24 Nov 2023, 00:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: Useful info, thanks.
If anyone knows how high a pilot could expect to still get 575 hp that would be really helpful. I could work out most of the rest. Knowing it’s 665 at sea level is almost enough info, but any more data would still be vey useful. From the F model manual with -1s. My torque table says ~1500 LB ft (~575 hp) is around 53-54 psi. This table is bleed air off. No tables for bleeds on.
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Post subject: Re: FS:1966 Rockwell Aero Commander 680V Posted: 24 Nov 2023, 19:57 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23623 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: From the F model manual with -1s. My torque table says ~1500 LB ft (~575 hp) is around 53-54 psi. That is some data, but the MU2 installation is quite a bit different from the Commander, namely in the exhaust routing. That will change the numbers a bit. The MU2 has a very short and direct tail pipe which is more efficient. The inlets are also a bit different. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: FS:1966 Rockwell Aero Commander 680V Posted: 03 Dec 2023, 21:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: Price reduced to $265,000.
-Neal can i get exact dimensions?
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Post subject: Re: FS:1966 Rockwell Aero Commander 680V Posted: 04 Dec 2023, 17:12 |
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wingspan is only 44'. I thought it was 48'?
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Post subject: Re: FS:1966 Rockwell Aero Commander 680V Posted: 05 Dec 2023, 00:54 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23623 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: That’s a ton of airplane for the $$ Probably over 3 tons, actually. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: FS:1966 Rockwell Aero Commander 680V Posted: 05 Dec 2023, 01:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: Explain the scope and schedule of the phase inspections. Rob, Here is a link to a document that Adam emailed me that describes the phase inspections and tasks: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/4z4s5cva ... ase5l&dl=0I am not on an expert on this make/model by any stretch but hopefully this helps answer your question in some way. -Neal
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Post subject: Re: FS:1966 Rockwell Aero Commander 680V Posted: 16 Dec 2023, 15:03 |
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Username Protected wrote: Here to answer any in-depth technical questions. What is the performance of this at Gross - fuel burn vs. KTAS at optimal or some sample altitudes Actual observed real world performance is the best information Thanks
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