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 Post subject: FS:1977 Turbo arrow III
PostPosted: 05 Mar 2022, 01:49 
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Location: NE Alabama
Aircraft: 84 B58P, 78 T Arrow
1977 Turbo Arrow
4300 TTAF
50 SMOH
1800 TBO
148 SPOH

Merlyn automatic wastegate (service Ceiling 27,000, Critical Altitude 18,000), Gami Injectors, 3 Blade Prop, speed mods, IFR; P28 wingspar AD inspection completed and passed (but wasn't mandatory by criteria).

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GNS 430W
Sandel 3308 EHSI
JPI engine monitor
ADS-B out, Stratus 2S mounted under the panel, panel powered, provides ADS-B in on your iPad/Foreflight
Garmin Audio panel
Digital tachometer
stormscope
autopilot
MX20(inop)

$175,000
Selling to upgrade after 17 years of loyal service. She's been a great ship. I'll list her on Controller/TAP after I complete the purchase of her replacement, but thought I'd start here. surgeon67@yahoo.com


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 Post subject: Re: FS:1977 Turbo arrow III
PostPosted: 15 Mar 2022, 01:36 
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Nice plane, can you add pictures of the interior and explain what kind of overhaul was done on the engine and when, as well as what was done in the last annual?

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 Post subject: Re: FS:1977 Turbo arrow III
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I'll get some interior pictures, sure.

The last annual was what resulted in the overhaul. Some cylinder wear required replacement, and after we added everything in that would need to be done, it was more cost effective to just overhaul. The engine was crated and shipped to Mena, Arkansas for rebuild/overhaul, then shipped back and re-installed (completed May 2021). After 20 flight hours an oil analysis was done which came back clean. Next annual due in May. Only other issue since was an AI that failed in flight and had to be replaced in January (IFR recert done then too).


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 Post subject: Re: FS:1977 Turbo arrow III
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Which autopilot?

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 Post subject: Re: FS:1977 Turbo arrow III
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Which autopilot?


Looks like a Century-3

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 Post subject: Re: FS:1977 Turbo arrow III
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Just to throw in my two cents, I owned a 1977 T-Arrow for 15 years. They are great airplanes once you figure out how to fly the engine, and once you do, it will probably make it all the way to TBO without major work. It is most comfortable in the mid-teens where you can get 150+/- knots at 12 gph ROP. And, my T-Arrow had, within a few pounds, the same full fuel payload as my A36TC with a 6 hour range compared to the 4.5 hour range in the A36TC (to empty).

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 Post subject: Re: FS:1977 Turbo arrow III
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It's an Autocontrol III-B autopilot.

And yes, Agree with everything above. Full fuel (72 gal) payload is 671 pounds.


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how many 100 hour inspections has it had? (that is part of the spar inspection process)

or have you calculated when the spar inspection is required?


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 Post subject: Re: FS:1977 Turbo arrow III
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I don't know how many 100 hr inspections offhand (I don't believe it was ever used for training or commercial use, but could be wrong about that), but my A&P said the AD didn't apply after reviewing the logs, and it wasn't required. However we had the spar inspection done last year (50 hours ago or so) regardless since the engine was being replaced at that time anyway, and I have the letter stating that the spar passed inspection.


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The AD would not apply at those hours unless it was used for a lot of training. the key factor in realizing how much more time is available before it applies is the number of 100 hour inspections. that is a key number to know to tell whether it has 100 hours left or 2000 hours left before the AD is necessary.

If you look up the AD it is easy to calculate when the AD actually applies.

I am looking possibly for a turbo Arrow but the time left is a key question in the purchase decision.


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I'm away from the logbooks, so I can't go through them at the moment to verify any 100 hour inspections, however I have been able to verify (via AOPA) that regardless of the number of inspections and TIS, once the AD inspection has been complied with (and it has been), no further compliance is needed. It's a "one and done" AD. So it's done.


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I'm going to list her with a broker. Does anyone have a recommendation of who to use? She's finishing up her annual as we speak, so it'll be a fresh one as of June 2022.


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