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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
PostPosted: 13 May 2021, 12:39 
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For CG questions: download the free Bonanza Performance App from POHPerformance (iOS or Android) and plug in the plane's empty weight and CG shown above in the ad.

I was playing with that and the stated CG arm of 72.70 results in an error message saying it is invalid. I guessed it's really 79.70 and played with those numbers. Would definitely meet my needs. :)


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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
PostPosted: 13 May 2021, 12:51 
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I downloaded the Bonanza Performance app and plugged in the numbers from this aircraft. Got an “Invalid Entry” message when entering CG value of 72.70.

I don’t know the 36 well enough to know if this CG is in or out of range.

Any thoughts?

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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
PostPosted: 13 May 2021, 13:50 
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I have a 1968 36. I did the club seat conversion. It was a minor alteration since the club seat picture is shown in the POH. It did require getting new seat rails which were fairly easy to get. It also required getting two rear facing seats with inertial reels. It was likely about 10K all in, with seats, rails, and labor. Very glad I did it.

With a TAT TN my useful load is 1545.5.lbs


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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
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For those referencing the CG being incorrect, I did some digging- you guys are correct, it appears that there was a mathematical error from years ago that was carried forward. Thank you for being on top of it!


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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
PostPosted: 13 May 2021, 23:00 
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I see the error. I believe the corrected moment is 168,567.7 divided by 2154.1 equals new CG of 78.25.

What do you think?

This dive in to W&B has dusted off the cobwebs from my flight instructor and ground instructor days of long long ago!

What fun!


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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
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I see the error. I believe the corrected moment is 168,567.7 divided by 2154.1 equals new CG of 78.25.

What do you think?

This dive in to W&B has dusted off the cobwebs from my flight instructor and ground instructor days of long long ago!

What fun!

George,
That is also what I think!


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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
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I have a 1968 36. I did the club seat conversion. It was a minor alteration since the club seat picture is shown in the POH. It did require getting new seat rails which were fairly easy to get. It also required getting two rear facing seats with inertial reels. It was likely about 10K all in, with seats, rails, and labor. Very glad I did it.

With a TAT TN my useful load is 1545.5.lbs


When I owned E52 (N7527N), it had club seating. The useful load was about 1400. Had almost 1000#s after fuel. Sold it in 88.

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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
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Even with a ​non working autopilot and a run out engine it’s a steal at that price...


I hope you're right! In fact, I hope there's a bidding war for this 36!! I'm sure Kyle agrees! :dance:

I can tell any prospective buyers that these early 36s are phenomenal. Great platforms to upgrade to your heart's content and personal preferences, while maintaining the lower weight and higher ULs the 36 is most coveted for, and where the latest G36s fail miserably. This looks like a great plane to acquire, fly and gradually upgrade over time. The very path I've taken, and am taking, and would do again in a heartbeat.

And we pre '84 BE36 flyers know that single control columns and vernier controls are hands down superior in every way to dual yokes and lever controls! :duck:

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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
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Even with a ​non working autopilot and a run out engine it’s a steal at that price...


I hope you're right! In fact, I hope there's a bidding war for this 36!! I'm sure Kyle agrees! :dance:

I can tell any prospective buyers that these early 36s are phenomenal. Great platforms to upgrade to your heart's content and personal preferences, while maintaining the lower weight and higher ULs the 36 is most coveted for, and where the latest G36s fail miserably. This looks like a great plane to acquire, fly and gradually upgrade over time. The very path I've taken, and am taking, and would do again in a heartbeat.

And we pre '84 BE36 flyers know that single control columns and vernier controls are hands down superior in every way to dual yokes and lever controls! :duck:


Russ, thank you for the comment! These straight 36's really can haul, it is impressive. Thank you for the real-world numbers and experiences in loading, we all appreciate it!

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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
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Even with a ​non working autopilot and a run out engine it’s a steal at that price...


I hope you're right! In fact, I hope there's a bidding war for this 36!! I'm sure Kyle agrees! :dance:

I can tell any prospective buyers that these early 36s are phenomenal. Great platforms to upgrade to your heart's content and personal preferences, while maintaining the lower weight and higher ULs the 36 is most coveted for, and where the latest G36s fail miserably. This looks like a great plane to acquire, fly and gradually upgrade over time. The very path I've taken, and am taking, and would do again in a heartbeat.

And we pre '84 BE36 flyers know that single control columns and vernier controls are hands down superior in every way to dual yokes and lever controls! :duck:

Thanks for sharing your experience. I've got this one under contract and love hearing the great feedback. PPI is happening today with a great report part of the way through.

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 Post subject: Re: SOLD: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
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This airplane has been sold! Congratulations to the new owner, I hope you enjoy your new Bonanza for many years to come.


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 Post subject: Re: SOLD: 1968 Beechcraft 36 Bonanza
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Thanks Kyle. You were great to work with.


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