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 Post subject: FS: 1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
PostPosted: 26 Nov 2019, 13:35 
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This aircraft is totally out of my/our wheelhouse, so forgive if I have to source info for you from elsewhere!

1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
N3862P S/N P21000065

$215,000.00

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GENERAL
2807 AFTT
805 TT SINCE TCM FACTORY REMAN/115 SINCE NEW CYLINDERS
115 SINCE NEW PROPELLER

AVIONICS
GARMIN GNS 530 NAV/COM 1, BENDIX/KING KX165 NAV/COM 2, KMA24 AUDIO PANEL, KN62 DME, KT76A TRANSPONDER, KCS55 COMPASS, KI206 NAV 2 INDICATOR, WX1000, JPI EDM700 ENGINE MONITOR, S-TEC 55 AUTOPILOT F/D, S-TEC GPSS STEERING

OTHER EQUIPMENT
STANDBY HORIZON(ELEC), NAT AA80 INTERCOM, DAVTRON M800 CLOCK, BOB FIELDS DOOR SEAL KIT, AUX FUEL, AUX VAC PUMP, RILEY INTERCOOLER, HORTON STOL, SUPER SOUND PROOFING, FACTORY AIR, GAMI INJECTORS, UVALDE GEAR DOOR MOD, SPEED BRAKES, P2 ADVISORY SYSTEM, STANDBY ALTERNATOR

SPECIFICATIONS SUBJECT TO VERIFICATION UPON INSPECTION

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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
PostPosted: 27 Nov 2019, 21:11 
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This aircraft is totally out of my/our wheelhouse, so forgive if I have to source info for you from elsewhere!

1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
N3862P S/N P21000065

$215,000.00

Attachment:
247189647_447508869e.jpg


GENERAL
2807 AFTT
805 TT SINCE TCM FACTORY REMAN/115 SINCE NEW CYLINDERS
115 SINCE NEW PROPELLER

AVIONICS
GARMIN GNS 530 NAV/COM 1, BENDIX/KING KX165 NAV/COM 2, KMA24 AUDIO PANEL, KN62 DME, KT76A TRANSPONDER, KCS55 COMPASS, KI206 NAV 2 INDICATOR, WX1000, JPI EDM700 ENGINE MONITOR, S-TEC 55 AUTOPILOT F/D, S-TEC GPSS STEERING

OTHER EQUIPMENT
STANDBY HORIZON(ELEC), NAT AA80 INTERCOM, DAVTRON M800 CLOCK, BOB FIELDS DOOR SEAL KIT, AUX FUEL, AUX VAC PUMP, RILEY INTERCOOLER, HORTON STOL, SUPER SOUND PROOFING, FACTORY AIR, GAMI INJECTORS, UVALDE GEAR DOOR MOD, SPEED BRAKES, P2 ADVISORY SYSTEM, STANDBY ALTERNATOR

SPECIFICATIONS SUBJECT TO VERIFICATION UPON INSPECTION

More photos can be viewed here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... zQMHGeTALU


What engine?
Useful load?
Do you have any real world cruise performance data?


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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
PostPosted: 28 Nov 2019, 12:28 
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What engine?
Useful load?
Do you have any real world cruise performance data?


I don't want to speak to this airplane specifically since I haven't flown it but I do fly a friend's P210 somewhat regularly so know it reasonably well. Below should provide close information.

Unless it has been upgraded to a Vitatoe engine (this one has not or the asking price would be another $100k), or it is an "R" model (again, this is not or the asking price would be another $100k) P210s usually have a version of the TSIO-520P, 1,600 TBO engine. The one I fly is currently over 2,000 hours SMOH and running well.

Depending on installed equipment, useful load averages 1,350 lb, +/- 100 lb. The one I fly has just over 1,400 lb useful load.

Real world cruise depends on how you run it. LOP, down low and at a low power setting it may only burn 11.5 GPH and give you about 160 KTAS. ROP up high and 75% it will burn 16.5 GPH and get about 190 KTAS.

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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
PostPosted: 28 Nov 2019, 13:12 
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Thanks, Ken! It is the TSIO-520P.

Useful load and weights and performance data I will have to get from our seller. Like I said, a bit out of our wheelhouse, but it’s a “friend/favor” deal.

Will likely be next week for the info!

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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
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ROP up high and 75% it will burn 16.5 GPH and get about 190 KTAS.


That doesn't sound right.

Most TSIO 520's will do about 170-175 TAS at 17.000' LOP at 16GPH (32",2500)
ROP same speed about 18.5GPH.

TAS increase as you climb above that altitude, but on hot days you normally step climb as you are limited by either too high CHT's or just low climb rates as you are heavy.
Cool off for 30 minutes and loose some fuel and you are ready for another 2000' climb.

LOP these aircrafts are pretty good performers.
But dont expect any great climbs. It will be in the 500-800'/min at max. Maybe a bit higher lower down.
The intercooler was as bit of a sale gig from Riley.
It probably gives you an increased detonation margin, but thats about it.
Do not follow the Riley POH supplement with reducing MP per -15c over the intercooler.
That is just plain wrong.

Feel free to ask any questions on the P210 or about the Riley conversion. I own one.


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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
PostPosted: 29 Nov 2019, 19:43 
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OK, I don't know a lot about these so I don't understand the appeal for the price. The useful load and speed are OK. Is it the "P" that adds value?



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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
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P means pressurized, so that’s a big difference in pilot and passenger comfort, hence people actually fly these at the higher altitudes where smooth air and high speeds are likely. Totally different market than a regular 210.

Instead of comparing to a turbo Lance, for example, the comparison is to a Malibu.


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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
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P210 is probably the cheapest cost of operation plane to get you above the weather with pressurization. If you don’t mind single engine, they will do some serious traveling in bad weather.

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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
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Nice airplane. I was looking for a T210 or a P210 when I stumbled on my Beech. Great airplanes.


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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
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P means pressurized, so that’s a big difference in pilot and passenger comfort, hence people actually fly these at the higher altitudes where smooth air and high speeds are likely. Totally different market than a regular 210.

Instead of comparing to a turbo Lance, for example, the comparison is to a Malibu.



Yeah, I knew it was pressurized and was wondering if that was the "Value" that I couldn't see.

Apparently that is the difference.



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 Post subject: Re: FS: 1978 CESSNA P210N RILEY ROCKET
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What engine?
Useful load?
Do you have any real world cruise performance data?


Sorry for the delay, the owner just got back with me on the questions.

TSIO-520P
2,426 Empty
4,100 GW
1,674 Useful

"Typical" cruise speeds he says in the teens it's usually 170 ktas.

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