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Post subject: Re: FS: 1979 Aerostar 601P Posted: 29 Feb 2024, 21:49 |
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This is a good plane for $300k, but if you thought it was going to be a KA200 that is a completely different plane. $2m in the same condition and $75k per year in insurance and maintenance instead of $20k. An old turboprop would not be a good choice. Dispatch reliability is questionable with old TPs. I would go back to a Mustang if you already had one. No comparison to a TP.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1979 Aerostar 601P Posted: 01 Mar 2024, 02:02 |
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Joined: 10/05/09 Posts: 342 Post Likes: +186 Location: Portland, Oregon
Aircraft: MU-2F
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Username Protected wrote: This is a good plane for $300k, but if you thought it was going to be a KA200 that is a completely different plane. $2m in the same condition and $75k per year in insurance and maintenance instead of $20k. An old turboprop would not be a good choice. Dispatch reliability is questionable with old TPs. I would go back to a Mustang if you already had one. No comparison to a TP. Dispatch reliability questionable with old turboprops?? Hasn't been my experience with my 52 year old turboprop. A repost from me: "well, since Mark resurrected my old post..the story with my MU2 remains quite good. I have had exactly one unscheduled maintenance event since I bought the plane in September 2020, an intermittent gear issue resolved in a day and a half at Intercontinental jet in Tulsa for $3K. Other than that, just scheduled maintenance. The 600hr inspection was $15,200, which is a big inspection involving flap removal and inspection. Took 2 1/2 weeks. The following 100/200hr was $8500 and took four days. My fuel usage on trips is usually 57-60gph, more on shorter legs, but never over 72gph on shorter legs at lower altitudes in my F model. Fuel is a much bigger expense than maintenance, but contract fuel like CAA helps a lot, plus avoiding expensive places. For the fuel burn I see 250-260KTAS in the low to mid 20's depending on temperature and weight. I have flown west coast to east coast in 8.5hours with one fuel stop multiple times now. The plane just works. As to how it flies, well, trim is your friend. Keep it in trim and it flies just fine. Landings are still interesting, but with good technique you can land without slamming the nose down, you just have to flare right at the last moment so the nose gear isn't too high off the pavement and it works out well. I am still very glad I bought this plane, as is my wife. Not having to get nickeled and dimed to death on service issues is a wonderful thing. It is by far the least hassle aircraft I have owned. Prior planes included a TU206G, three different P210s and a P Skymaster. The MU2 has been less hassle than any of those aircraft and much more capable as well. The F model MU2 remains likely the least expensive twin turboprop you can operate. I remain a very happy MU2 owner." FWIW, flew from KHIO to KCCR today, airmets for icing, turbulence and all sorts of nastiness. As Thomas Bienz says, the MU2 doesn't care, it just works. This is the first plane I have owned that I can truly say my wife actually likes. We just plan and go, it is really a wonderful way to get around the country and so far, the grief factor has been minimal. This thread is a for sale thread though, and as Aerostars go, Trey has a nice one and I would be tempted if I was in the market for one. I hope it finds a happy owner.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1979 Aerostar 601P Posted: 04 Mar 2024, 20:35 |
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I’m pretty sure he sold it. Username Protected wrote: This is a good plane for $300k, but if you thought it was going to be a KA200 that is a completely different plane. $2m in the same condition and $75k per year in insurance and maintenance instead of $20k. An old turboprop would not be a good choice. Dispatch reliability is questionable with old TPs. I would go back to a Mustang if you already had one. No comparison to a TP. Dispatch reliability questionable with old turboprops?? Hasn't been my experience with my 52 year old turboprop. A repost from me: "well, since Mark resurrected my old post..the story with my MU2 remains quite good. I have had exactly one unscheduled maintenance event since I bought the plane in September 2020, an intermittent gear issue resolved in a day and a half at Intercontinental jet in Tulsa for $3K. Other than that, just scheduled maintenance. The 600hr inspection was $15,200, which is a big inspection involving flap removal and inspection. Took 2 1/2 weeks. The following 100/200hr was $8500 and took four days. My fuel usage on trips is usually 57-60gph, more on shorter legs, but never over 72gph on shorter legs at lower altitudes in my F model. Fuel is a much bigger expense than maintenance, but contract fuel like CAA helps a lot, plus avoiding expensive places. For the fuel burn I see 250-260KTAS in the low to mid 20's depending on temperature and weight. I have flown west coast to east coast in 8.5hours with one fuel stop multiple times now. The plane just works. As to how it flies, well, trim is your friend. Keep it in trim and it flies just fine. Landings are still interesting, but with good technique you can land without slamming the nose down, you just have to flare right at the last moment so the nose gear isn't too high off the pavement and it works out well. I am still very glad I bought this plane, as is my wife. Not having to get nickeled and dimed to death on service issues is a wonderful thing. It is by far the least hassle aircraft I have owned. Prior planes included a TU206G, three different P210s and a P Skymaster. The MU2 has been less hassle than any of those aircraft and much more capable as well. The F model MU2 remains likely the least expensive twin turboprop you can operate. I remain a very happy MU2 owner." FWIW, flew from KHIO to KCCR today, airmets for icing, turbulence and all sorts of nastiness. As Thomas Bienz says, the MU2 doesn't care, it just works. This is the first plane I have owned that I can truly say my wife actually likes. We just plan and go, it is really a wonderful way to get around the country and so far, the grief factor has been minimal. This thread is a for sale thread though, and as Aerostars go, Trey has a nice one and I would be tempted if I was in the market for one. I hope it finds a happy owner.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1979 Aerostar 601P Posted: 06 Mar 2024, 00:38 |
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Joined: 11/25/19 Posts: 228 Post Likes: +99
Aircraft: Aerostar 601P, AS350
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Aircraft is technically still for sale, a prospective buyer has offered a deposit which I have not accepted as he is unable to close until the end of March.
Please have an indication of your ability to get insurance or financing before reaching out, two people have gotten to closing day and not been able to perform because of unreasonable insurance quotes.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1979 Aerostar 601P Posted: 06 Mar 2024, 09:21 |
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Joined: 02/11/09 Posts: 1375 Post Likes: +490 Company: UNLV Location: Tucson, AZ (57AZ)
Aircraft: 1960 Bonanza M35
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Username Protected wrote: Please have an indication of your ability to get insurance or financing before reaching out, two people have gotten to closing day and not been able to perform because of unreasonable insurance quotes. Sellers of twins have been reporting that a lot. They've accepted one, two, or three offers only to have the transaction repeatedly not go to completion due to the buyer not being able to obtain insurance for a reasonable premium or obtain insurance at all in some cases.
_________________ Ken Reed 57AZ
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1979 Aerostar 601P $300,000 Major Price drop Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 15:40 |
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Joined: 11/25/19 Posts: 228 Post Likes: +99
Aircraft: Aerostar 601P, AS350
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Repositioning to KOMA on 3/10
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1979 Aerostar 601P Posted: 29 Apr 2024, 11:57 |
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Yes, His was one of the victims of the KOMA tornado. Terrible lose of a lot of good aircraft. Also see a A36 involved in one picture.
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Post subject: Re: FS: 1979 Aerostar 601P Posted: 29 Apr 2024, 19:23 |
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Joined: 11/25/19 Posts: 228 Post Likes: +99
Aircraft: Aerostar 601P, AS350
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Yea the Nader got it. Can’t even tell where my hangar used to be. Hopefully it will keep a few more Aerostars flying in years to come. Lot of good or new parts on that airplane.
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