This is a beautiful airplane. The price and terms were disclosed transparently in the first post. This is a different way than what we are used to, but bottom line is all that counts. Factor it in. If you don't like that approach, move on. Whatever happened to not stomping on someone's ad?

I hope you are joking.

I apologize in advance for the thread drift as I know this isn't my thread but since my name was mentioned in the underlined/bolded portion of the above post (emphasis mine), I wanted to clarify my agency role in the aircraft transaction as an aircraft broker. I fully recognize that I may be misunderstanding Randy's post above as it relates to me (and if so, I apologize) but for clarity, I offer 2 separate and distinct services to my clients.

The first service is a seller's representation service where aircraft owners hire me to market and sell their aircraft on their behalf. In this role, I travel to the owner's location and take photos of the aircraft and its logbooks. I review the photos and logbooks/records, build the spec sheet, and then place advertisements on Controller, BeechTalk, etc. I then handle the sales transaction from listing through closing. In this scenario, my fiduciary responsibility is solely to the seller and he pays me at closing.

The other service I offer is a buyer's representation (acquisition consultant) service. In this role I work directly for the buyer and help him decide what aircraft is best for his mission and then I go out and search for the best possible candidate for him - generally on the open retail market but there are times where off-market opportunities present themselves as well. In this situation I vet the various options, read their logbooks/records, make the offer on behalf of the buyer, and draft/review the purchase agreement. I then arrange the pre-purchase evaluation, test flight, escrow, and closing in a sales tax friendly location. In this scenario, my fiduciary responsibility is solely to the buyer and he pays me at closing.

To summarize, if I am working for the seller, the seller pays me and if I am working for the buyer, the buyer pays me.

-Neal

Lance, thank you for the kind words and consideration. Our company has been a strong supporter of BeechTalk since 2009 when I sat on the board of the ABS. Over the past 16 years, we have had the pleasure of making an immeasurable number of online friends here, lending a hand whenever possible to assist anyone interested in the airplane which I still believe reigns supreme with regard to quality and engineering. That said, the respect and decorum that was prevalent throughout the forums for years seems to have passed. I don't know why that is but there was a time when the "Jeffs," as moderators of the group, seemed to pay closer attention to what was said here and were quick to keep people online, in line. Granted, we do have a backwards business model that can be difficult to understand no matter how transparent and sincere our disclosure and I appreciate your recognition of this. As stated multiple times, typically we work under contract for pilots seeking technical representation and market assistance when purchasing a Bonanza, Baron, or Piper Twin Comanche. In this particular case, we were given responsibility to market this extraordinary airplane for which we had no contract buyer at the time I posted it here but that changed the moment the aircraft went on our company website. The mistake I made was thinking someone from the BT community might be interested in the airplane but I'll know better next time. Anyway, my son Nick and I appreciated seeing your comment and wish you the best in your future endeavors.

I had the pleasure of speaking to Randy about TKS deicing several years ago. He spent almost an hour with me frankly discussing the good and bad with no financial benefit to him. Seems like a great guy. If you don't like his business model, move on. He hasn't done anything that violates terms of service and doesn't deserve to be criticized for his way of selling airplanes.

At this price point, why not buy a 2013 mirage for 100k less and put that towards your Mx?

Wow. Why do you think this is an appropriate response on a for sale thread?

Wow. Why do you think this is an appropriate response on a for sale thread?

5 total posts on BT, and we’re stomping on someone’s ad. Really??!!? Obviously, a violation of the TOS.

Not cool.

That’s gotta be some kind of record!

But as my teachers used to say, “I’m not sure that’s the sort of attention you want to seek.”

Wow. Why do you think this is an appropriate response on a for sale thread?

Sorry Lance,

Your informative and much more tactful response was posted while I was typing (my short and sweet one).



Kevin