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 Post subject: Re: Its Time To Paint My TBone
PostPosted: 07 Oct 2017, 12:49 
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I would go with Beech period correct lines and style but use modern paints including dynamic micro metallic colors and clear coat.

Personally I prefer the classic look for a 1949 designed aircraft

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 Post subject: Re: Its Time To Paint My TBone
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I think the period scheme is very appropriate as it is. From the pictures that you have put on BT, I think you have, at least to me, the best looking one that I have seen. Just sayin'. However, beauty is in the eye of the beholder so, paint it like Charlie wants it.

Whatever scheme and colors that you select, I'm sure will be pleasing t-bone porn to everyone's eyes. So git'er done so we can see! :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: Its Time To Paint My TBone
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OK. Since nobody else is going to ask.....Charlie, what are shops quoting to paint the classic beast?
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 Post subject: Re: Its Time To Paint My TBone
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OK, you asked for it.................

The most very basic of paint jobs, one base color and one/two simple stripes start at $30K. If you go with two colors, (like my original emerald green scheme) with a couple of additional stripes you go over $40K. If you take it to the limit (see a couple of the awesome paint jobs posted earlier in this thread) you are at $50K+. I'm sure you can do a little better if you find a hungry shop elsewhere in the US or Canada but I was more willing to pay for convenience so that if a problem comes up I can drive to the shop in under 3 hours.


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 Post subject: Re: Its Time To Paint My TBone
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Charlie,

As a data point

I have a Don Copeland masterpiece paint job on my T bone. I think he may be one of the more expensive shops around. I do know he is very high quality and does exactly what he says he is going to do.

Don removed all control surfaces, gear, all the cowling, every inspection plate and stripped, painted all surfaces including the gear. My paint is base coat white and black with tan and red stripes. So a totally of four colors. I also had Don chrome my fuel caps, all the latches for the cowl doors, pitot tubes, air stair door handle and front baggage door handle.

My total bill came to 42k.


I had two other quotes. Each were in the 28k range. This was 2014.


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 Post subject: Re: Its Time To Paint My TBone
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Sounds about right. All 3 shops that I quoted cited 10-20% price increases in the last few years.
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Thanks Charlie.
I love the.....you asked for it :D

Once this thread dies down it might be worth posting a "good shop--bad shop" paint story thread. Good paint shops are hard to come by. And most treat the TwinBo the same as a King Air when it comes to painting even though the price point on the aircraft is completely different.
Kinda like I tell my son....it's stinks being the biggest kid in your class. People set different expectations. Magnesium control surfaces doesn't help either.
Thanks for the baseline. Keep the quotes coming guys.
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 Post subject: Re: Its Time To Paint My TBone
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Could not make it to the paint shop yesterday due to IFR weather. Ordinarily that wouldn't be a problem but they wanted me to show up with minimal fuel so they don't have to drain as much at the end of the process for the new weighing. I had it planned to land with only 10 gallons per main, well below the IFR minimum requirements so had to wait for good VFR weather.

Therefore I flew the Tbone to the shop today. Arrived at 8:30 am and after about 1 hour of paperwork and chatting we got down to business. All control surfaces removed, main gear doors removed, augmenters removed, taping in preparation for the stripping process well underway. Still need to pull the nose gear doors, my hands are just too big to get into those nose gear well inspection holes to pull the hinge bolts. We are looking for a very small mechanic to pull them tomorrow. Some pictures below.....

They are planning to get the stripping done this week.


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YAY..................it's going to be GREAT Charlie !!!! :drool:

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Awesome, I hope they send you lots of progress pics!

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Based upon watching how knowledgeable people look at my T-Bone at miscellaneous fuel stops,etc, there is usually a gravitation to look up inside the wheel wells. I think I would have a serious understanding with a paint shop about what you expect in repainting
the wells. I attached some photos of my airplane. I take no personal credit on the great job done on mine, all i did was outline my general desire to improve the oily, carbon coated looking mess I had on mine when I bought my airplane five years ago. They still look exactly like this 300 hours later-no leaks( the credit goes to Ryan Douthitt IA/ owner at Navion Customs, Chino CA who did the work along with his chief mech and crew who also brought back the oxidized exterior paint and did some restriping). Feel free to use the pics which I took myself. Can't wait to see your final results.

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My wheel wells are going to be stripped and painted the base white color, but I doubt they will look as good as yours!
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Those are some damn fine looking wheel wells!

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Some post stripping photos....note the trough that they collected all the stripped paint in.


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Looking better already.
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Some post stripping photos....note the trough that they collected all the stripped paint in.

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