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 Post subject: Re: Looking to buy a Beechcraft and got lots of questions
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For the OP, I think you can plan on around 210-215 KTAS up high on a little more than twice the fuel your SR22 burns per hour. The 58P is probably the least expensive pressurized twin to operate but it does have a couple downsides. One is the relatively low cabin pressure differential (worse on the earliest year models) another is the loss of the big double doors on the unpressurized B58. Then there's the 10,000 life limit before they turn into a pumpkin.

Like any Baron it's pretty much a 4 person airplane although on a short trip you can do 2 adults and 4 kids or squeeze 6 "normal sized" people. There are three variants, 1976-1977 has 3.7 PSI pressurization, from 1978 forward that went up to 3.9 PSI giving you an 8000 ft cabin altitude a bit less than 1000 higher above sea level. From 1984 on the instrument panel and control wheel setup changed from the throw-over yoke to a true dual wheel setup with a lot more room on the panel for instruments and avionics. The dual pointer 3" engine instruments were replaces with two columns of smaller single pointer "turbine style" gauges as well.

The 58P does allow for a comfortable cabin altitude in the mid to upper teens, fits through a 40 foot hangar door, is built with legendary Beech quality, and is almost as nice to fly as a B58 (i.e. pretty nice). Most have air conditioning 190 gallon fuel tanks, and known ice (boots, hot props, and a hotplate on the windshield).

If you'd like more details on the many production changes over the years, get yourself a copy of Larry Ball's book "From Travel Air to Baron, How Beeh Created a Classic"

Where in Minnesota are you located? I have a friend with a 58P at KFCM that he's finishing up an avionics upgrade on. He or someone else in your area with a 58P might be willing to take you for a flight.


This is a nice summary! Just curious, but what might the rule of thumb be on cost to operate a well maintained 58P as compared to an A36 or a regular 58?

My neighbor has a gorgeous Malibu completely sorted and re-done, but I was shocked at his planned budget for annuals and insurance with pressurization. It can be eye-watering (for some). He even looked at changing to a Matrix briefly, but decided to keep the Bu’ because he traded a lot of capability and comfort (cannulas) and he didn’t think the savings to own would be worth it. Devil you know and all. Wondering if the complexity similarly jacks up the 58p numbers.

They are awesome though!


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 Post subject: Re: Looking to buy a Beechcraft and got lots of questions
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For the OP, I think you can plan on around 210-215 KTAS up high on a little more than twice the fuel your SR22 burns per hour. The 58P is probably the least expensive pressurized twin to operate but it does have a couple downsides. One is the relatively low cabin pressure differential (worse on the earliest year models) another is the loss of the big double doors on the unpressurized B58. Then there's the 10,000 life limit before they turn into a pumpkin.

Like any Baron it's pretty much a 4 person airplane although on a short trip you can do 2 adults and 4 kids or squeeze 6 "normal sized" people. There are three variants, 1976-1977 has 3.7 PSI pressurization, from 1978 forward that went up to 3.9 PSI giving you an 8000 ft cabin altitude a bit less than 1000 higher above sea level. From 1984 on the instrument panel and control wheel setup changed from the throw-over yoke to a true dual wheel setup with a lot more room on the panel for instruments and avionics. The dual pointer 3" engine instruments were replaces with two columns of smaller single pointer "turbine style" gauges as well.

The 58P does allow for a comfortable cabin altitude in the mid to upper teens, fits through a 40 foot hangar door, is built with legendary Beech quality, and is almost as nice to fly as a B58 (i.e. pretty nice). Most have air conditioning 190 gallon fuel tanks, and known ice (boots, hot props, and a hotplate on the windshield).

If you'd like more details on the many production changes over the years, get yourself a copy of Larry Ball's book "From Travel Air to Baron, How Beeh Created a Classic"

Where in Minnesota are you located? I have a friend with a 58P at KFCM that he's finishing up an avionics upgrade on. He or someone else in your area with a 58P might be willing to take you for a flight.


This is a nice summary! Just curious, but what might the rule of thumb be on cost to operate a well maintained 58P as compared to an A36 or a regular 58?

My neighbor has a gorgeous Malibu completely sorted and re-done, but I was shocked at his planned budget for annuals and insurance with pressurization. It can be eye-watering (for some). He even looked at changing to a Matrix briefly, but decided to keep the Bu’ because he traded a lot of capability and comfort (cannulas) and he didn’t think the savings to own would be worth it. Devil you know and all. Wondering if the complexity similarly jacks up the 58p numbers.

They are awesome though!

The common perception is that a NA Baron costs about twice as much to operate as a Bonanza and a pressurized Baron adds another 50% (i.e. 3X Bonanza). But there's quite a bit of variance in those figures depending on what you include in the cost, where you live, where you live, your experience, and your participation in the airplane's maintenance.
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