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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 03 Apr 2020, 12:10 |
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Joined: 05/11/10 Posts: 12403 Post Likes: +11410 Location: Indiana
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Username Protected wrote: It's a metaphor....metaphorically speaking. Prompt intervention by the proprietor of the establishment (bouncer intervention) would prevent physical clashes of the parties. While "digital" clashes aren't capable of leading to physical clashes of the parties, it is disrupting to the forum/pub atmosphere.
Hope that's a little clearer.
Mike I've said it before: one should never say anything online that would get him a punch in the mouth in person.
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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 03 Apr 2020, 12:57 |
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Joined: 11/30/10 Posts: 4263 Post Likes: +3718 Company: Flagstaff-Williams Dev. LLC Location: KCMR
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Clearly, some of us live in civilized societies. I imagine in those places, a call to 911 gets a response in less than an hour. Even then, Im sure it will be; "Just the facts, 'mam." kind of response.
In places where you have to rely on your own initiative and protection, you have to set personal boundaries. This becomes our common culture and the makeup of our common sense. Over time, some of us have moved to more civilized areas.
Don't insult any one you don't know personally and well. If you do, fire away; chances are they deserve it. Else;
a. They might take it personally and defend himself physically. b. invariably, he has family. They may not like it either. c. You have family. What you say and do reflects on them too. They may have to pay the price for you. d. Chances are you all have the same hardware or feed store.
The internet is an emotional crutch. It allows even the most stupid, to express any nonsense at any time, without the threat of retribution.
Show some wisdom and some character.
If you're a sociopath, then of course, none of this applies.
-------- Welcome to Arizona; where brandishing isn't an offense, is a way of life.
_________________ All my friends are here. I know this because all my enemies are dead. :)
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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 03 Apr 2020, 18:54 |
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Joined: 11/30/10 Posts: 4263 Post Likes: +3718 Company: Flagstaff-Williams Dev. LLC Location: KCMR
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Username Protected wrote: Yes it's OK, and it has nothing at all to do with "getting away with it." It has to do with their behavior, especially as it affects not just yourself but any larger group. E.g. I will continue to insult Holocaust deniers as vicious & stupid cavemen. Should I meet one in person & push comes to shove, I'd shove back.
Inhumanity and overly aggressive behavior behind the keyboard doesn't get a pass just because you haven't been formally introduced. Okay Dennis, I get it. I didn't know you were on the receiving end of someone else initiating it. Standing up for someone else is a different thread.
_________________ All my friends are here. I know this because all my enemies are dead. :)
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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 03 Apr 2020, 21:10 |
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Joined: 11/30/16 Posts: 29 Post Likes: +11
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Well, I read a lot of posts here; but have only posted a handful myself. In every case, I’ve only received friendly and helpful information. I have not witnessed the ugly exchanges you’re reporting here, so I assume it was a fairly isolated incident. From that perspective, BT has been a great source of information, advice, and friendship. Thanks for putting it together.
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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 03 Apr 2020, 21:36 |
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Joined: 04/16/11 Posts: 5246 Post Likes: +6863 Company: Self Employed Location: Burlington, NC
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Tommy, You are correct, I don't know the numbers, but I'd say less than a very small fraction of all the threads on BT include any derogatory, rude or inflammatory comments. But, it's like a bad apple ruining the bunch. And, we have such a great team of moderators and administrators (Jeff C, Jeff S.) that they know they need to address it now before it grows to be a big problem. I think this proactive approach to nip it in the bud is the only way to keep BT the civil community that we have all come to love and appreciate.
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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 03 Apr 2020, 23:18 |
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I believe we should all be part of the solution.... Not add to the problem, as a group we can achieve anything. GB
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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 03 Apr 2020, 23:41 |
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Joined: 01/11/10 Posts: 3962 Post Likes: +4137 Location: (KADS) Dallas, TX
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Username Protected wrote: Yes it's OK, and it has nothing at all to do with "getting away with it." It has to do with their behavior, especially as it affects not just yourself but any larger group. E.g. I will continue to insult Holocaust deniers as vicious & stupid cavemen. Should I meet one in person & push comes to shove, I'd shove back.
Inhumanity and overly aggressive behavior behind the keyboard doesn't get a pass just because you haven't been formally introduced. Excuse me, but what world do you live in? Everything is circumstantial. Sure, you might insult a holocaust denier at a tax preparers convention. However, you might decide to hold your tongue at a half-way house community outreach if the denier was a 250lb. MMA fighter just released from prison. The only universal truth is everyone's a bad ass on the Internet.
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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 04 Apr 2020, 12:34 |
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Joined: 07/17/13 Posts: 2087 Post Likes: +2941 Location: Covington, LA (KHDC)
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Username Protected wrote: The only universal truth is everyone's a bad ass on the Internet.
I maintain that people are who they really are at their core, when they're on the internet. They can abandon all social requirements and just be themselves. I always shake my head when I read - you should meet so & so in really life, they're much nicer! Really?
_________________ Flying - Because baseball, football, basketball, soccer, bowling & golf only take one ball.
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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 04 Apr 2020, 12:54 |
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Joined: 07/29/17 Posts: 1717 Post Likes: +3872 Location: Freedom NH
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Username Protected wrote: I always shake my head when I read - you should meet so & so in really life, they're much nicer! Really? I've met quite a few of my virtual friends in real life (mostly fishing/hunting boards but a couple BT/POA sorts) and they are pretty much like they are on-line. What I have noticed is the one's that are less than civil on-line simply don't show up for a face to face meeting even when it's an easy thing to do. I'm good with that.
_________________ “Each year you make a resolution to change yourself. This year, make a resolution to be yourself.”
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