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Hi there, i was flying my baron 58p 13,000 to 14,500ft and suddendly the windshield just pop off, it just crashed and because of the presurization it went out of the airplane, the instruments top cover flew away too, landed safely and cool. Has anyone had the same thing???it was a bad windshield installation, do you think that the pressurization system must be checked?
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Yikes that sounds scary glad you made it down ok, sounds like the windshield was poorly installed the hi-locks must not come in contact with the glass. I had a side window crack It didn’t blow out or lose pressure just made a loud bang I thought someone dropped the table after I landed I noticed a crack across the corner diagonally. :peace:


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At first it was scary, but when runway in sight, it was like flying stearman :D


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Hi there, i was flying my baron 58p 13,000 to 14,500ft and suddendly the windshield just pop off, it just crashed and because of the presurization it went out of the airplane, the instruments top cover flew away too, landed safely and cool. Has anyone had the same thing???

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Hi there, i was flying my baron 58p 13,000 to 14,500ft and suddendly the windshield just pop off, it just crashed and because of the presurization it went out of the airplane, the instruments top cover flew away too, landed safely and cool. Has anyone had the same thing???it was a bad windshield installation, do you think that the pressurization system must be checked?
Greetings from mexico

Sam - great job handling that situation. Definitely sounds like a previously installed windshield was improperly installed. Sounds like you were solo in the Baron which is a good thing. And greetings from CA!

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Sam,

Welcome here, quite an introduction. Glad you handled this incident without injury.

This post truly should be reposted in crash talk.

Some have speculated this to be a replacement windshield though you ask if it could have been a poor installation, I do not conclude from this it was not an original installation.

Certainly installation of these windows needs to be done with great care and should also be a critical inspection item at each annual and preflight for that matter. We often see windows in very deteriorated condition being ignored, if this is on a non pressurized aircraft it is far less critical though the windshield on any of the Beech Bonanza's and Barons are actually structural elements. If you have a chance to see one of these aircraft with the windshield removed and see how flexible the top cabin structure is without the windshield in place you will understand its load bearing nature.

The P Baron Windshield is not much thicker than a standard Bonanza windshield but is much more susceptible to failure due to deterioration/crazing, damage or mis-installation due to pressurization loads imposed on this windshield. Count the square inches of surface area of this windshield and multiply it by the differential pressure seen on the cabin pressure gauge and you will understand what loads are imposed on it Far more than just a Bonanza window keeping the wind out of your face a 200 MPH.

Us in aircraft maintenance too can get complacent about windows in pressurized aircraft and at times need examples to understand the true forces imposed. About twenty years ago we had such an example. A Piper Cheyanne we took care of had recently been repainted and suffered a copilot side window failure, after inspection we noted razor cuts around the perimeter of the windows from the paint shop cutting the masking tape during paint. This window failed on climb out at about 8000ft the aircraft was doing about 160 MPH at the time of the failure. The window blew out with such force in caved in the right engine nacelle, put a few dents in the wing outboard and one large dent in the right tip tank at the end of the wing. That is a lot of force to project this piece to the tip at that speed. Our technicians gave window a far wider berth when pressurizing aircraft in the shop.

I do not think Textron has any windshields in stock, I do believe Perkins Aircraft can supply a windshield for this aircraft as we recently installed one for a customer who purchased the windshield from them.

So happy this did not happen at altitude, in bad weather and high speed.

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Wow! What a thing to have happen to you. Glad you landed okay. :thumbup:

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At first it was scary, but when runway in sight, it was like flying stearman :D

Sam, I think You might get the Cool Cucumber Award :bugeye: :clap: Nice Job :pilot:
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Hi fellas, well after one month, the shop who installed the cracked windshield came and determined that it was a bad a installation (there were some rivets that were too thigh and some that were too loose, so finally, with the pressure, it cracked out.
Thanks for the comments, greetings from mexico.


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