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 Post subject: New member looking hunting for an S or V35
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2018, 16:21 
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Hello, My name is Jordan Normark and I live in Raleigh, NC. I recently joined BT and have been reading through the wealth of informative and entertaining posts here. I also joined ABS so I am committed to finding a Bonanza now! BT for sale section, Barnstormers, TAP, Controller, ASO etc have become my haunts for the last month or so. If any members know of an unadvertised S or V35 for sale I would appreciate knowing about it. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: New member looking hunting for an S or V35
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Depending on your experience in the search process, you might consider contacting someone to assist. One of the best is here on BT - Neal Schwartz.

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Good luck & Welcome to BT!

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 Post subject: Re: New member looking hunting for an S or V35
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Thanks for the suggestion, I got in touch with him.


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 Post subject: Re: New member looking hunting for an S or V35
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Welcome to BT Jordan,

You have made a good choice with V35 ;) make the hunt a learning experience and enjoy it.
Good luck with the purchase :cheers:

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 Post subject: Re: New member looking hunting for an S or V35
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Welcome Jordan, good luck in your search :thumbup:


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 Post subject: Re: New member looking hunting for an S or V35
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Seems to be a sellers market right now. I expect prices to be going up. Good time to buy one if you find a good one.

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 Post subject: Re: New member looking hunting for an S or V35
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Thanks guys! I narrowed the search down to an S or V35 about a month ago. I keep reading and learning. It’s been quite the learning experience so far. A couple of weeks ago I thought I had found “the one” but a trip to Texas with a mechanic revealed otherwise. A large, recent, undisclosed ding in the prop, a decade worth of “paper annuals” and we were on the first airline flight home. What did I learn? Insist on seeing logbook scans and AD documentation BEFORE flying half way across the country. In hindsight that seems obvious, but if I forget again my lovely wife will be there to remind me :D


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Good job on your prebuy.

I know everyone says the "S" is the one to have, but keep in mind the V will have a very comparable empty weight but higher max gross. They are identical otherwise.

To me, a light V is the one to have. That was the conclusion of my research, and shopping. :thumbup:


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 Post subject: Re: New member looking hunting for an S or V35
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I know everyone says the "S" is the one to have, but keep in mind the V will have a very comparable empty weight but higher max gross. They are identical otherwise.

To me, a light V is the one to have. That was the conclusion of my research, and shopping. :thumbup:


I agree. However, I have seen some S's, even with the lower gross, still have more useful load than some V's. There is so much variation over the years with equipment, interior, paint etc. that each airplane has to be looked at individually. Same goes for CG.

I recently downloaded WNB Pro which lets me input the specific empty weight and arm for any individual airplane I am looking at so I can play around with loading scenarios. I have learned that for most of my flying, CG will be more critical than useful load.

I am including S's in the search since they are the first to have the larger baggage area and IO-520. Is there anything else I should consider?


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Jordan,
Both models are excellent - no need to drift from that search. Let’s talk about CG. They all came off the assembly line with pretty much the same CG. When you see big swings in CG on the planes you are looking at, it’s because of “stuff” that has been added since leaving the factory OR somebody messed up weighing the plane. The latter happens often. The “stuff” that makes a big difference is a 3 blade prop which is good for CG in a 35, or radio/autopilot equipment behind the baggage compartment bulkhead.
I have an S with a 3 blade Hartzell in front, and only the 406 ELT and S-tec autopilot elevator servo in the back. My CG is good at 78.4 with just the four passenger seats installed. I almost never have a CG problem.
My empty weight is 2,131 lbs and because I have 15 gallons BDS tip tanks my max weight is 3,550 which results in a useful load of 1,418 lbs.
If you find a plane you really like with a nasty aft CG, take a look at what’s behind that baggage compartment bulkhead. If there are lots of old avionics boxes you can fix the CG by upgrading to the new panel mounted electronics available and removing the heavy “stuff” in back that is causing the aft CG.
If you are looking at a plane with a lousy CG and there isn’t any stuff in back, and the nose ballast weight hasn’t been removed, then the CG computations have been screwed up. Re-weigh and be more careful with the measuring, particularly finding the verticle axis of the MLG axels..


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