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Post subject: Re: Air to Air Photography - North Texas Posted: 03 Feb 2015, 13:12 |
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Joined: 12/25/10 Posts: 6092 Post Likes: +3885 Company: Occasionally Pleasant Location: Bourland Field 50F Cresson, TX
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Username Protected wrote: Looking for folks who non-commercial air-to-air photos for in the Dallas area.  Can you translate "non-commercial"?
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Post subject: Re: Air to Air Photography - North Texas Posted: 03 Feb 2015, 13:37 |
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Joined: 03/17/08 Posts: 6612 Post Likes: +14821 Location: KMCW
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I am not sure what you mean by non-commercial??? If you mean you want an Air to Air picture of your airplane for free, then say that....
What matters here is professional. It has nothing to do with getting paid, but it has everything to do with being safe.
Photo shooting can be one of the most dangerous things you can do in an airplane. Or it can be a wonderful, exciting and rewarding experience.
The difference is who is doing it. If you want an air-to-air pic of your airplane, you have a choice.... Work with a professional, even if it costs a little bit of money, do it right, and safely end up with a masterpiece. Or go flying with some amateurs, scare the crap out of yourself, put yourself and your friends lives at risk, and end up with a snapshot of your airplane.... See below...
Just because someone is charges does not mean they are a professional, and there are good shooters who are up and coming that need material for their portfolios that will do it for free. But someone in the operation needs to know what they are doing, either the Photo pilot, the Subject pilot, or the Photographer, needs to have some experience....
There are several good shooters on BT that will give you a fantastic picture at a fair price, and can help arrange for photo, and subject pilots who know what they are doing....
A 10,000 hour corporate or airline pilot most likely will not have the skills needed to accomplish this.
I have done a lot of work with a jet manufacturer that would do magazine articles about corporate flight departments and they quit because the customer wanted a magazine cover of their airplane, their corporate pilot could not fly the airplane how and where it needs to be to get the shot, and the result was the thing they most wanted to do, blow some smoke up their customers tailpipe, failed, and turned into a negative experience for their best customers. To solve that problem, they insisted on bringing their own pilots and that PO'd their customer's pilots, so they quit doing it....
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Post subject: Re: Air to Air Photography - North Texas Posted: 03 Feb 2015, 18:50 |
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Joined: 08/30/09 Posts: 2089 Post Likes: +488 Location: Fulshear, TX (X09)
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+1 with Doug. Commercial photographer that is familiar with safely getting you the best pictures is the way to go. My favorite in our area is Glenn Watson (BT Member and A36 owner) with Mach Point One Aviation. Glenn will get some awesome shots of you and your plane. http://www.machpointoneaviation.com/about.htmlHe has lots or experience taking pictures of all aircraft types, but in my opinion his best work is with Bonanzas. Of course I'm biased... Following is link to my write up on photo shoot with Glenn: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=78198&hilit=glenn+watson
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Post subject: Re: Air to Air Photography - North Texas Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 21:49 |
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Joined: 01/01/15 Posts: 35 Post Likes: +2 Company: T C Willis, LLC Location: McKinney, TX (T31)
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Username Protected wrote: If your in SC or FL I can give you a hand...snapped this one on a cell phone last weekend. Thanks for the offer!
_________________ Blue Skies & Tailwinds! TC ABS & EAA Lifetime EAA Technical Counselor At-Large, FAA DAR
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Post subject: Re: Air to Air Photography - North Texas Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 21:52 |
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Joined: 01/01/15 Posts: 35 Post Likes: +2 Company: T C Willis, LLC Location: McKinney, TX (T31)
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Username Protected wrote: Looking for folks who non-commercial air-to-air photos for in the Dallas area.  Can you translate "non-commercial"?
My intent was/is to find "professional" level air-to-air shooters that are willing to shoot for shared expenses. In the past I have evaluated Commercial rates and found it to exceed my budget by a large margin.
_________________ Blue Skies & Tailwinds! TC ABS & EAA Lifetime EAA Technical Counselor At-Large, FAA DAR
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Post subject: Re: Air to Air Photography - North Texas Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 21:54 |
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Joined: 01/01/15 Posts: 35 Post Likes: +2 Company: T C Willis, LLC Location: McKinney, TX (T31)
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Username Protected wrote: +1 with Doug. Commercial photographer that is familiar with safely getting you the best pictures is the way to go. My favorite in our area is Glenn Watson (BT Member and A36 owner) with Mach Point One Aviation. Glenn will get some awesome shots of you and your plane. http://www.machpointoneaviation.com/about.htmlHe has lots or experience taking pictures of all aircraft types, but in my opinion his best work is with Bonanzas. Of course I'm biased... Following is link to my write up on photo shoot with Glenn: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=78198&hilit=glenn+watsonThat is a beautiful bird, great backdrop and very crisp.
_________________ Blue Skies & Tailwinds! TC ABS & EAA Lifetime EAA Technical Counselor At-Large, FAA DAR
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Post subject: Re: Air to Air Photography - North Texas Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 21:56 |
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Joined: 01/01/15 Posts: 35 Post Likes: +2 Company: T C Willis, LLC Location: McKinney, TX (T31)
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Username Protected wrote: I am not sure what you mean by non-commercial??? If you mean you want an Air to Air picture of your airplane for free, then say that....
What matters here is professional. It has nothing to do with getting paid, but it has everything to do with being safe.
Photo shooting can be one of the most dangerous things you can do in an airplane. Or it can be a wonderful, exciting and rewarding experience.
The difference is who is doing it. If you want an air-to-air pic of your airplane, you have a choice.... Work with a professional, even if it costs a little bit of money, do it right, and safely end up with a masterpiece. Or go flying with some amateurs, scare the crap out of yourself, put yourself and your friends lives at risk, and end up with a snapshot of your airplane.... See below...
Just because someone is charges does not mean they are a professional, and there are good shooters who are up and coming that need material for their portfolios that will do it for free. But someone in the operation needs to know what they are doing, either the Photo pilot, the Subject pilot, or the Photographer, needs to have some experience....
There are several good shooters on BT that will give you a fantastic picture at a fair price, and can help arrange for photo, and subject pilots who know what they are doing....
A 10,000 hour corporate or airline pilot most likely will not have the skills needed to accomplish this.
I have done a lot of work with a jet manufacturer that would do magazine articles about corporate flight departments and they quit because the customer wanted a magazine cover of their airplane, their corporate pilot could not fly the airplane how and where it needs to be to get the shot, and the result was the thing they most wanted to do, blow some smoke up their customers tailpipe, failed, and turned into a negative experience for their best customers. To solve that problem, they insisted on bringing their own pilots and that PO'd their customer's pilots, so they quit doing it.... Thanks Doug for the great information. My intent is to find a "professional" level shooter who is willing to shoot on a shared expenses arrangement. What I have in mind is just a suitable for framing shot of our bird.
_________________ Blue Skies & Tailwinds! TC ABS & EAA Lifetime EAA Technical Counselor At-Large, FAA DAR
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Post subject: Re: Air to Air Photography - North Texas Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 22:12 |
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Joined: 01/01/15 Posts: 35 Post Likes: +2 Company: T C Willis, LLC Location: McKinney, TX (T31)
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Username Protected wrote: +1 with Doug. Commercial photographer that is familiar with safely getting you the best pictures is the way to go. My favorite in our area is Glenn Watson (BT Member and A36 owner) with Mach Point One Aviation. Glenn will get some awesome shots of you and your plane. http://www.machpointoneaviation.com/about.htmlHe has lots or experience taking pictures of all aircraft types, but in my opinion his best work is with Bonanzas. Of course I'm biased... Following is link to my write up on photo shoot with Glenn: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=78198&hilit=glenn+watsonWow Jay... great story and beautiful shots. Have been away from the office a while sorry for the late reply. Thanks much for the links and advice. Because of the costs involved when I last investigated commercial air-to-air shots, I am investigating sharing expenses with some professional level shooters who may be willing to work with me on a very small project. If that's not an option, I may just review the commercial approach and save up! Thanks again!
_________________ Blue Skies & Tailwinds! TC ABS & EAA Lifetime EAA Technical Counselor At-Large, FAA DAR
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Post subject: Re: Air to Air Photography - North Texas Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 23:30 |
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Joined: 01/01/15 Posts: 35 Post Likes: +2 Company: T C Willis, LLC Location: McKinney, TX (T31)
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Username Protected wrote: Best of luck... Well... seek and ye shall find. Today I met a gentlemen at our EAA Chapter meeting who is willing to work with me. Stay tuned for the results... 
_________________ Blue Skies & Tailwinds! TC ABS & EAA Lifetime EAA Technical Counselor At-Large, FAA DAR
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