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 Post subject: Re: New Girl Hoping to Find A Plane
PostPosted: 26 Feb 2018, 13:21 
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More definition maybe needed:
-Budget: 50k , 75k, 100k. ?
-Useful Load: 4 people plus fuel: 600lbs passengers, 100lbs luggage, 300lbs fuel?
-Range: 300lbs fuel would get you 3 hours on 12g +or- 4 to 500 miles

Once this is more define, it will narrow your search.

-Grumman's could fit in that thinking. Inexpensive to operate, and good hauler, mine is 985lbs useful.
-182 are great, more weight, same speed, more maintenance cost.
-Bonanza's may be out of reach for now.
-Cherokee six is another one that comes to mind, but fuel burn is high. maintenance can be expensive. Great haulers.

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 Post subject: Re: New Girl Hoping to Find A Plane
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Welcome Amy! Lots of good thoughts here, and you've come to the right place for good advice.

I was in your shoes 8 years ago. I found a great partner, and we bought an A36 and have never looked back. It's amazing how much more plane you can buy when you are paying 1/2 of everything. We even sprung for the 550 upgrade in 2014 (love it for any naysayers), which I would likely not have done by myself.

Partnerships have to be well thought out, and a good partner is the absolute key. That said, if you can find that person, you open a LOT more doors financially. My partner and I have both wanted to use the plane at the same time about once every two years, and we each fly 50-100 hours per year in it.

Just a suggestion to consider! :cheers:


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Much as I love anything that says "Beechcraft" on it, I'm pretty sure a Grumman Tiger will do everything a Sundowner will do, while looking better, handling better, and going faster.


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 Post subject: Re: New Girl Hoping to Find A Plane
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Much as I love anything that says "Beechcraft" on it, I'm pretty sure a Grumman Tiger will do everything a Sundowner will do, while looking better, handling better, and going faster.

and much easier to find a buyer for when it's time to trade up


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I would highly recommend a close look at a Grumman (Tiger or Cheetah) as a good first plane. I don't know what your mission is, but these are quick planes, fun and easy to fly, seem to have retained their value over the last few years. They have a great support group and are reasonable for maintenance. I owned a Cheetah for 10 years and probably will retire with a Tiger.


Obviously its depends on your budget, but I'm partial to Grumman Tigers and Bonanzas. I instructed in Cheetahs for several years and they are nice but don't like hot/heavy gross weight conditions, The Tiger is a much better plane. Cruises all day long at 139 knots on around 10-10.5 GPH. Very sturdy, easy to work on and cheap to insure. Also surprisingly roomy on inside. I once had a 6'3 guy in the back of my Grumman and he said he had lots of room. I folded down the back seats and camped in mine a few times.

Unless you are going on longer trips (like 1000 miles) I think the Tiger would be a better fit (and they are so maneuverable and fun to fly). I love being able to slide the canopy back on a summer day when taxiing around to stay cool. I owned a Cherokee Six for two years and it was a beast, but thirsty on the fuel and pretty slow.

The Bonanza is obviously a bigger step up, but if you find a good one you will fall in love. Built like a tank and although parts can be expensive (depending on where and how you get them) they don't break very often. Just try to find a plane that has been flying and not a "hangar queen".


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Amy - welcome to Beechtalk and good luck with your search! :thumbup:

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