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Post subject: NEW TO BEECH TALK, BUT NOT NEW TO BONANZA'S AND BARONS Posted: 11 Jun 2011, 02:19 |
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Joined: 06/09/11 Posts: 58 Post Likes: +7
Aircraft: bonanza,baron,
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Hello was told about Beech talk by owners of Bonanza's who have visited my shop in Palatka Florida. So to tell you a little about my self and my shop. I am a third generation aviation specialist and aircraft refinisher. My family has been working on, and painting aircraft from Eastern Airlines Electra's to 757 cargo mods, War birds, Next Gen 737's to Cessna 150's. Oh and yes the beloved Beech Bonanza's and Barons.
Custom Painted by Parrish may have a new name, but we are not new kids on the ramp. Our new shop is located in in North East Florida, and we are accepting bookings for available slots in July and September. Link to our temporary web site, the new one is looking really nice, and send me an email if you would like a quote. Mention you heard of us from Beech Talk and recieve a discount. We are not an assembly line shop, we are Oshkosh and Sun N' Fun winners. Mentioning Oshkosh, we have one slot left to get your Beech painted and looking all nice and sleek for the flight and stay at the show. So don't wait, don't think about it, contact us today...
I am available as well as my team to answer any questions you may have. So please feel free to ask. If I do not have an answer for you I will certainly do my best to get the answer for you. I have added just some of the Beechcraft we have painted over the years. Hope you enjoy, and hope you choose to Discover Our Passion at Southern Eagle Aviation. You may reach me here in a email or contact me via the site at southerneagleair.com
Blue Skies.
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Post subject: Re: NEW TO BEECH TALK, BUT NOT NEW TO BONANZA'S AND BARONS Posted: 11 Jun 2011, 22:29 |
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Joined: 12/10/07 Posts: 36019 Post Likes: +14417 Location: Minneapolis, MN (KFCM)
Aircraft: 1970 Baron B55
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Username Protected wrote: questions you may have. So please feel free to ask. If I do not have an answer for you I will certainly do my best to get the answer for you. I have added just some of the Beechcraft we have painted over the years. How much variation in effort/time/cost is there when painting a B55 Baron other than the choice/complexity/colors of the paint scheme? What's the range for a complete strip/paint with white plus a couple colors in a fairly simple pattern?
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Post subject: Re: NEW TO BEECH TALK, BUT NOT NEW TO BONANZA'S AND BARONS Posted: 12 Jun 2011, 01:55 |
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Joined: 06/09/11 Posts: 58 Post Likes: +7
Aircraft: bonanza,baron,
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Lance,
Thanks for your question. As well thanks for the others for the welcome. I like to keep an aircraft for 30 days. The reason being is the aircraft is on a more than enough time frame to do a complete and quality refinish. Some of the assembly line shops that have large overheads and 15, 20 or more people on their crews can not hold an aircraft this long. But a shop like mine and others out their that have low overhead and small teams (I have on average 5 crew members assigned to your plane), can keep an aircraft this long, work it a nice pace and provide you the owner with a custom job.
With that said depending on the shape of the plane when it came in I have told the owner bring it in on the 1st and pick it up on the 31st. As the progress reports were coming to him, I was preparing him to pick her up on the 21st. The aircraft was in nice shape and we were able to complete it faster.
I guess the answer to question depends on the shop you take it to. Experience that I have the shops with reputations of doing great work, custom work, and care for the aircraft and not just the check ($), you will be looking at about 30 days and no more. The assembly line big "boy" shops they could probably knock you a paint job out is 8 to 10 days.
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Post subject: Re: NEW TO BEECH TALK, BUT NOT NEW TO BONANZA'S AND BARONS Posted: 12 Jun 2011, 12:43 |
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Joined: 12/10/07 Posts: 36019 Post Likes: +14417 Location: Minneapolis, MN (KFCM)
Aircraft: 1970 Baron B55
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Username Protected wrote: Lance,
Thanks for your question. As well thanks for the others for the welcome. I like to keep an aircraft for 30 days. The reason being is the aircraft is on a more than enough time frame to do a complete and quality refinish. Some of the assembly line shops that have large overheads and 15, 20 or more people on their crews can not hold an aircraft this long. But a shop like mine and others out their that have low overhead and small teams (I have on average 5 crew members assigned to your plane), can keep an aircraft this long, work it a nice pace and provide you the owner with a custom job.
With that said depending on the shape of the plane when it came in I have told the owner bring it in on the 1st and pick it up on the 31st. As the progress reports were coming to him, I was preparing him to pick her up on the 21st. The aircraft was in nice shape and we were able to complete it faster.
I guess the answer to question depends on the shop you take it to. Experience that I have the shops with reputations of doing great work, custom work, and care for the aircraft and not just the check ($), you will be looking at about 30 days and no more. The assembly line big "boy" shops they could probably knock you a paint job out is 8 to 10 days. Thanks. What's the expected cost range for a "simple" (i.e. nothing really elaborate in terms of color quantity or detailing) B55 project (exterior strip/paint) if you have a month to complete it?
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Post subject: Re: NEW TO BEECH TALK, BUT NOT NEW TO BONANZA'S AND BARONS Posted: 12 Jun 2011, 21:49 |
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Joined: 06/09/11 Posts: 58 Post Likes: +7
Aircraft: bonanza,baron,
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Lance,
I would do a strip and paint with 15 hours of body work included in the price for a scheme similar to your avatar for $14,000.00 as a starting price.
This second picture that I borrowed from the forum. Please note I did not paint this aircraft. I would have charged about 15,00.00 for this paint scheme.
This first aircraft I most likely would have charged in the neighborhood of around 22,500.00 - 23,500.00 for that scheme. It is such a difference because of the split scheme, complexity of the scheme so its more man hours and materials than anything on that scheme.
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Post subject: Re: NEW TO BEECH TALK, BUT NOT NEW TO BONANZA'S AND BARONS Posted: 13 Jun 2011, 16:01 |
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Joined: 12/10/07 Posts: 36019 Post Likes: +14417 Location: Minneapolis, MN (KFCM)
Aircraft: 1970 Baron B55
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Thanks. I'm likely to get mine painted sometime in the next couple years and your pricing is pretty close to what I was anticipating. I kinda hate to strip and paint because most of the coating is OK, but there are small problems all over the place plus almost the entire painted portion of the leading edges (wings, tail, cabin, nacelles, etc) are chipped badly, and the right wing plus part of both nacelles are oxidized.
On a booted plane like mine, do you leave the boots on?
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Post subject: Re: NEW TO BEECH TALK, BUT NOT NEW TO BONANZA'S AND BARONS Posted: 20 Jun 2011, 09:53 |
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Joined: 06/09/11 Posts: 58 Post Likes: +7
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Lance,
We do typically leave the de-ice boots on unless that is something that you are replacing. We cover them with a Layer of paper, then layered with Heavy Grade Foil, with about a 1 1/2 inch edge over the paint while stripping. After that process is complete. We remove the tape edge back to the boot, tape again with new tape and remove the paint the was under the first line by hand.
When the paint job in complete we re-seal the edges with new sealer, and then clean and treat the boots. I use the REAL CARE Re-shine De-Ice revitalization products for this. They are cleaned, treated, and then a sealer, its makes them look brand new again.
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Post subject: Re: NEW TO BEECH TALK, BUT NOT NEW TO BONANZA'S AND BARONS Posted: 20 Jun 2011, 12:38 |
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Joined: 12/10/07 Posts: 36019 Post Likes: +14417 Location: Minneapolis, MN (KFCM)
Aircraft: 1970 Baron B55
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Username Protected wrote: Lance,
We do typically leave the de-ice boots on unless that is something that you are replacing. We cover them with a Layer of paper, then layered with Heavy Grade Foil, with about a 1 1/2 inch edge over the paint while stripping. After that process is complete. We remove the tape edge back to the boot, tape again with new tape and remove the paint the was under the first line by hand.
When the paint job in complete we re-seal the edges with new sealer, and then clean and treat the boots. I use the REAL CARE Re-shine De-Ice revitalization products for this. They are cleaned, treated, and then a sealer, its makes them look brand new again. Thanks. My boots are in pretty good shape so it's good to know you are able to leave them on.
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Post subject: Re: NEW TO BEECH TALK, BUT NOT NEW TO BONANZA'S AND BARONS Posted: 20 Jun 2011, 16:26 |
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Joined: 06/09/11 Posts: 58 Post Likes: +7
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Your welcome and when you ready just send me an email would be happy to give you a quote based on your scheme and anything extra you would like done. Also note I offer Beechtalk members lower rates as well.
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Post subject: Re: NEW TO BEECH TALK, BUT NOT NEW TO BONANZA'S AND BARONS Posted: 20 Jun 2011, 19:56 |
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Joined: 12/10/07 Posts: 36019 Post Likes: +14417 Location: Minneapolis, MN (KFCM)
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Username Protected wrote: Your welcome and when you ready just send me an email would be happy to give you a quote based on your scheme and anything extra you would like done. Also note I offer Beechtalk members lower rates as well. This year's major expense will be the Auracle installation (next month!). I'll likely be ready for painting sometime next year.
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