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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 23:11 |
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Joined: 03/24/19 Posts: 1350 Post Likes: +1861 Location: Ontario, Canada
Aircraft: Glasair Sportsman
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The community here tends to be kind and supportive, and I often tout Beechtalk to others as a bit of fresh air in an otherwise-polluted internet.
As a case in point, I recently posted some information in a thread. I made a typo in that information, and my error was pointed out to me in a manner that not just flagged the error but added very useful detail to the conversation.
That same discussion thread resulted in a private message which included a private individual's request to call him to further discuss the technical in's and out's.
Where else on the internet would you feel safe to provide your private phone number to some stranger on the other side of the continent?
Jeff and Jeff... please ask yourselves this same question. Ask yourselves if you have achieved your goals, whether they are reflected in the vast majority of interactions between BT members. We know there will always be a bad apple. We know somebody is going to have a bad day. We know somebody will hit "submit" before they've had an opportunity to fully review their post. At the end of the day, this discussion forum sees a few of these negative instances as aberrations rather than the norm.
I believe you have created and are maintaining a discussion forum which cleaves tight to your original goals. I thank you for the time and effort you put into keeping this site not only viable but, most importantly, truly enjoyable. It's a haven in an otherwise crazy world.
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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 01 Apr 2020, 00:12 |
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Joined: 05/11/10 Posts: 9724 Post Likes: +13138 Company: ? Most always. I like people. Location: KFIN Flagler, FL
Aircraft: 1991 Bonanza A36
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Jeff^2, I take a bit of a different view. IMHO no apologies are in order. You have created and maintained the most beloved website in which I have ever participated. The balance of aviation, information, entertainment, and comradery is, again, IMHO as inspired as our country's founding documents. I mean that. I've rarely seen such a caring group as the BT brotherhood, and that is as inclusive of our ladies as the word mankind. For instance : One of our pilots, while in a friend's plane, was involved in a mechanical failure crash that nearly cost his life. Just two weeks earlier he and his wife had taken in three foster children in an effort to keep these little ones from being separated. This crash put our brother, who was in the aviation industry, out of work for nearly a year. The bank was foreclosing on his home and without bedrooms the foster children were to be taken and separated in the system. By the time BT knew of this brother's plight thousands of dollars were needed in less than a week. It looked unlikely...until BT stepped up and in three days raised enough to save this brother's home and children. But because it was December, BTers kept giving and by Christmas raised over $50,000! That's your failed website! I too flinch at times when some are a bit too crass towards others and I'm all for warnings and sanctions where necessary, but I would also encourage those verbally accosted not to be too thin skinned. Some time ago I was chastened out the wazoo after a particular poor post. I considered how much I respected the BT braintrust, and I figured if the guys and gals I respect so much disagree maybe I'm not so right after all. It made me research and ponder my position and without being too self depreciating, I'll just say, I learned a lot and righted a long held wrong. One of my favorite books says, "faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful." I'd rather be chewed out and put in my place by someone who cares enough about me to make me better than salved by some sweet talking b-kisser who doesn't give a flip about my accuracy. A few days ago in a CV thread that got a bit testy I wrote the following... Username Protected wrote: I take a view that is widly practiced but I find not often expressed. BeechTalk wouldn't be here if it didn't attract us for reasons we each have. The fact that so many participate is a testament to BT's value.
It concerns me a lot more when we threaten to, or actually withhold participation because we don't like the way others participate, than the forms of participation.
I look forward to reading everyone's views on this virus and I implore everyone to keep participating.
We may moan about it not being factual enough, too argumentative, immature or even too elitist. It may be too opinionated, too liberal, too conservative, too prepper, not prepper enough. Some express their views too much, too repetitive.
I rarely, but on occasion, watch and listen to the media. BT is a breath of fresh air by comparison. Talk about shouting down dissent, repetition, misinformation... I'll take BT over the media any day.
There is not a lot of new news to report on this or most any subject. Once a report is given most everything else is rehashing.
I read most new BT threads. There are few newsworthy events that BT doesn't cover. Some I'm not interested in. Others, like this thread, I keep coming back to.
Much of BT too is rehashing. But we either rehash or shut down. I'd rather y'all rehash and maybe I'll learn the forth or fifth time around.
It is not hard to separate the believable information from the "entertainment" and I enjoy both. That is why I say BT is one of the most balanced information sources I know.
If you have the time and inclination I really appreciate your input of every sort.
I don't like personal attacks, but not because I object specifically to them. I see them as entertaining banter to be dismissed for the fluff they are. My biggest objection to personal attacks is the danger that someone may actually "care" and quit posting.
I'll guarantee you if someone you "don't like" on BT had a real problem most ALL of us would rally to their aid. The banter, to me, is like a church football game. A bunch of guys who genuinely care about each other whom I expect to knock me on my butt in an effort to win the game. But for heaven's sake, it's just a game! No love lost.
We know who the doctors are, and we know who the Ron Calugars are. (I'll use my name instead of yours in this context.) If we want facts about this virus we listen to the doctors, but it doesn't mean the Ron Calugars don't ever offer insightful or at minimum, entertaining content.
What I really don't like is people who won't post because we scrap too much, or are too dumb to keep up. That kills BT.
BT is a family. Not a board meeting. Sometimes we just play, sometimes just work, sometimes we just relax, shoot the breeze and rib each other. We are not all the same at the same time.
If you quit, you diminish the family. If that's what you want to do, go ahead. It's a free country. But IMHO the value of BT is participation. No one is too good or not good enough.
So weather we are singing in unison or knocking each other over in a sand lot football game, lets have fun and participate. We're grown up enough to sort out fact and fiction. We check and balance each other sufficiently such that nefarious info will not prevail.
It's the varying views that have me infected. I'd hate to see us have to be so perfect that we cut out half the content. One of my old professors, rest his soul, was famous for saying, "don't get so heavenly minded that you're no earthly good." If someone is egregiously unkind, bam, but sometimes being too touchy is as bad as being too boorish. If you can make BT better, go for it. It's the best there is, and you did it!
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Post subject: Re: Our Vision for the BeechTalk Community Posted: 01 Apr 2020, 00:38 |
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Joined: 03/30/11 Posts: 3993 Post Likes: +2491 Location: Greenwood, MO
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Username Protected wrote: Your ball, your game, your rules. Maybe there should be a BT Bar & Grill where people can gather after the game to talk politics.
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