banner
banner

30 Aug 2014, 14:08 [ UTC - 5; DST ]


Beechcraft Corporation



Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Username Protected Message
 Post subject: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2011, 00:34 
Offline



User avatar
 WWW  Profile

Joined: 03/23/08
Posts: 1480
Post Likes: +12
Company: AirPower Insurance
Location: Phoenix, AZ (KDVT)
Aircraft: Yk50, Mu2-M
Anybody ever flown a Wing Derringer?
Maybe I should put this post in the "Twins" section.

I recently told somebody they were crazy for thinking about buying one.

Then I spent the next 3 days looking at it and thinking how cool it was!
TJ

_________________
Airpower Insurance,LLC-a BT Sponsor
866-475-9199
www airpowerinsurance com
Tj@AirpowerInsurance.com


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2011, 00:39 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile

Joined: 12/10/08
Posts: 7285
Post Likes: +120
Location: Arizona (KSEZ)
I love the Wing Derringer. We had one fly into Sedona last year. There can't be many of them still flying.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2011, 01:03 
Offline



User avatar
 WWW  Profile

Joined: 03/23/08
Posts: 1480
Post Likes: +12
Company: AirPower Insurance
Location: Phoenix, AZ (KDVT)
Aircraft: Yk50, Mu2-M
There is one listed on Controller now and it is adorable.
Don't think I have ever seen one.

Initially I thought it was Experimental, but its a certified airplane.

Looks neat.
Tj

_________________
Airpower Insurance,LLC-a BT Sponsor
866-475-9199
www airpowerinsurance com
Tj@AirpowerInsurance.com


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2011, 08:24 
Online



User avatar
 WWW  Profile

Joined: 09/27/09
Posts: 2627
Post Likes: +36
Company: Coats & Evans, PC
Location: The Woodlands, TX (KDWH)
Aircraft: 1989 Bonanza F33A
Ernie Gann owned one.

_________________
Drew Coats
1989 F33A N601BT
KDWH
http://www.TexasAviationLaw.com


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2011, 08:38 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile

Joined: 11/18/08
Posts: 343
Post Likes: +1
Location: X55 Mid Florida (Orlando)
Aircraft: Bonanza A36
Never heard of it, but what a cool name.



..."can you top off my Derringer"?

... " I'm gonna go load up the Derringer".

..." Honey we'll take the Derringer tonight".


Please login or Register for a free account via the link in the red bar above to download files.

_________________
I like grapes


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2011, 08:42 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile

Joined: 03/03/10
Posts: 1416
Post Likes: +5
Location: MO
Aircraft: B200
Wasn't there a company at 3CK (Finefield's in IL) that was going to try and restart the line? Parts would be my concern, but what a neat little plane.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2011, 08:49 
Offline



User avatar
 Profile

Joined: 05/08/09
Posts: 2451
Post Likes: +57
Location: Stuart, FL (KSUA)
Aircraft: 1967 Bonanza V35
Very hot little machine. There was one at National Test Pilot School when I attended. Very impressive performance for only twin 150hp engines. Small area for bags and only two seats.

That particular airplane was lost along with two very experienced test pilots in what appeared to be an unrecoverable spin accident.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2011, 22:17 
Offline


 Profile

Joined: 02/01/09
Posts: 212
Post Likes: +19
Company: boyes bros. inc.
Location: Mexico,Missouri
Aircraft: baron b55
THE WING DERRINGER WAS A JOHN THORP DESIGN. GEORGE WING ,PRESIDENT OF HI-SHEAR CORP. DEVELOPED THE FINAL VERSION. IT INCORPORATED CHEM MILLED SKINS,FLUSH RIVETING,ONE PIECE WING SKINS AND A PIVOTING CANOPY. INITIAL FLIGHT TESTING OCCURED FROM TORRENCE,CALIFORNIA. PRODUCTION WAS TO HAPPEN AT COFFEYVILLE,KANSAS BY A FIRM CALLED OLIN-DIXON. I SAW TWO DERRINGERS AT SUS IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES. THEY WERE ON A MULTI-CITY SALES TOUR. THE PROJECT FAILED WHEN WING'S FINANCES WERE DRAINED TRYING TO STOP A TAKEOVER OF HI-SHEAR. THE DERRINGER'S QUALITY RIVELS EVEN BEECHCRAFT'S.IT IS STILL A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE AIRPLANE. BOB BOYES


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 10 Apr 2011, 22:14 
Offline



User avatar
 WWW  Profile

Joined: 03/23/08
Posts: 1480
Post Likes: +12
Company: AirPower Insurance
Location: Phoenix, AZ (KDVT)
Aircraft: Yk50, Mu2-M
The landing gear retract arms in the picture of the one on Controller look like beautiful castings.

The power quadrant is odd. I see 4 levers. 2 for throttle, 2 for something else with a red band at the bottom (MCO or PFx).

THere are some other vernier controls by the Copilots left knee. Maybe those are Mix.

For sure putting the Derringer on my list of TTS if I am ever the LMOE..

Tj

_________________
Airpower Insurance,LLC-a BT Sponsor
866-475-9199
www airpowerinsurance com
Tj@AirpowerInsurance.com


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 11 Apr 2011, 20:32 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile

Joined: 08/12/08
Posts: 291
Location: Ocala, Florida
Aircraft: BE-58, Columbia 350
Tail needs to stick out a lot further if I'm going to fly a twin. I'll bet the Vmc demo in that thing is a real peach!


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 11 Apr 2011, 20:52 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile

Joined: 03/03/10
Posts: 1416
Post Likes: +5
Location: MO
Aircraft: B200
Username Protected wrote:
Tail needs to stick out a lot further if I'm going to fly a twin. I'll bet the Vmc demo in that thing is a real peach!


I dunno...it's only 3000 lbs 160 hp per side...Vmc is 74 KIAS


Here's a nice little info pdf:
http://www.skypark.org/images/WingDerringerBrochure.pdf

and here's a really nice write up..."500 fpm at Vyse"
http://www.skypark.org/images/WingDerri ... Report.pdf


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 11 Apr 2011, 21:22 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile

Joined: 08/12/08
Posts: 291
Location: Ocala, Florida
Aircraft: BE-58, Columbia 350
It doesn't say whether the 500 fpm is plus or minus, but my guess is that it rolls upside down pretty quick so plus seems doubtful.

Mostly just kidding. It looks fun. Then again, so does sleeping with a stripper. Self-preservation keeps me from both.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 04 May 2011, 10:08 
Offline

 Profile

Joined: 05/04/11
Posts: 2
Aircraft: Cessna 210
I've been following this aircraft more or less since its early production time frame and was sorry that it failed, mostly I think through poor marketing and the fact that most of the aircraft were built right when the 1980-82 recession was at its worst. It should have been marketed like a Ferrari or other sports car in my opinion.

Wikipedia has a small write up of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_Derringer This sparks the mind to wonder who has those remaining "partially completed" airframes? If there were nine D-1's registered in 2009, that's in excess of the seven production aircraft known to have been built, so I'm guessing that at least two of those airframes were completed.

Thanks for the link to the factory brochure, that's a good find.

Here's a photo of a D-1 at Lakeland last January. I think it's a fine looking aircraft, you know, one that just looks "right".
Image

Image


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 04 May 2011, 13:56 
Offline


 Profile

Joined: 04/18/10
Posts: 49
Post Likes: +4
Aircraft: bonanza 35j
Ernie gann use to come to my home town in his wing derringer and would fly around town single engine without feathering the prop with another passenger. the friend he use to visit here recently has passed away, but thought it would be cool to own ernies wing derringer. i assume his family sold the plane. almost bought one, but happy i didn't, after owning a couple 2 place aircraft, there is never enough room to be comfortable after a couple hrs. especially as one gets older.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Wing Derringer?
PostPosted: 04 May 2011, 14:07 
Offline


User avatar
 WWW  Profile

Joined: 12/12/07
Posts: 1618
Post Likes: +2
Company: Wellington Brake&Alignment
Location: Wellington-Palm Beach, Florida
Aircraft: want TN'd G36
Username Protected wrote:
Very hot little machine. There was one at National Test Pilot School when I attended. Very impressive performance for only twin 150hp engines. Small area for bags and only two seats.

That particular airplane was lost along with two very experienced test pilots in what appeared to be an unrecoverable spin accident.



VERY nice looking machine. Looks a little short bodied for longitudinal stability though. I'll bet the accident mentioned by James was an unrecoverable flat spin like the 55's can get in. The big advantage of a 58 (along with the barn doors) is at least you have a better chance of getting out of a flat spin.

_________________
"Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." ~ Ronald Reagan


Top

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  

Terms of Service | Forum FAQ | Contact Us

BeechTalk, LLC is the quintessential Beechcraft Owners & Pilots Group providing a forum for the discussion of technical, practical, and entertaining issues relating to all Beech aircraft. These include the Bonanza (both V-tail and straight-tail models), Baron, Debonair, Duke, Twin Bonanza, King Air, Sierra, Skipper, Sport, Sundowner, Musketeer, Travel Air, Starship, Queen Air, BeechJet, and Premier lines of airplanes, turboprops, and turbojets.

BeechTalk, LLC is not affiliated or endorsed by the Beechcraft Corporation, its subsidiaries, or affiliates. Beechcraft™, King Air™, and Travel Air™ are the registered trademarks of the Beechcraft Corporation.

Copyright© BeechTalk, LLC 2007-2014

.jlosborne-85x50.jpg.
.concorde.jpg.
.voiceflight.jpg.
.Latitude.jpg.
.truecourse.jpg.
.SCA.jpg.
.ABS-85x100.jpg.
.global_flight.jpg.
.dshannon.jpg.
.centex-85x50.jpg.
.waypoint.jpg.
.tat-85x100.png.
.aps-85x150.jpg.
.fliteelectronics.jpg.
.bpt-85x150-2014-07-01.jpg.
.CDAssociates-85x50.jpg.
.Hawk.jpg.
.instar.jpg.
.avwx.jpg.
.nuvio.png.
.hubble1.jpg.
.squawk-85x50.jpg.
.cumberland.jpg.
.jaair-85x100.jpg.
.camguard.jpg.
.aerospace-85x100-3.png.
.planelogix-85x50.jpg.
.avidyne-ifd-85x50.jpg.
.kalamazoo.jpg.
.bkool-85x50-2014-08-04.jpg.
.midwest2.jpg.
.dbm.jpg.
.aviationdesigndouble.jpg.
.zephyr.jpg.
.airpowerred.jpg.
.aircraftwidgets.jpg.
.wealthserve.jpg.
.geebee-85x50.jpg.
.wilco.jpg.
.AAI.jpg.
.aerostar.jpg.
.cmi-85x150-2014-08-28.jpg.
.wholesalepowertools.jpg.
.realclean2.jpg.
.fastaviation.jpg.
.tempest.jpg.
.2014-07-28-bendix-king.gif.