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 Post subject: Plane and Pilot did it again.
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2009, 11:51 
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Plane and Pilot did it again this month.

"Affordable Flying".

That's like picking up a Robb Report with a Prius on the cover.

Stop it!!!! If I wanted to do this on the cheap I'd fly commercial. I want to know about the latest and greatest, coolest and most expensive. Not the cheapest. I hate LSA's!!!!!!

I'm canceling my subscription!


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 Post subject: Re: Plane and Pilot did it again.
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LOL - it wasn't long ago there was a thread on another board someone was lamenting the magazines catered to the expensive stuff. They were going to cancel too. :lol:

Bad time to be in the print business. :ohno:


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 Post subject: Re: Plane and Pilot did it again.
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2009, 12:29 
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Stop reading P&P and start reading Flying. They'll tell you all about the stuff only 1% of the pilot population can afford.


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 Post subject: Re: Plane and Pilot did it again.
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I actually canceled a while ago, however 3 weeks ago they called me up and offered me 36 issues for $36. A buck an issue. I anted up. There has to be at least $1 worth of value in an issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Plane and Pilot did it again.
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Better yet, get P&P's sister pub Pilot Journal. Only a quarterly but the cheapest thing they've had on the cover lately is the Cirrus Jet.


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 Post subject: Re: Plane and Pilot did it again.
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I'm not implying I can afford the most expensive. I'm just saying that "the most expensive" is a hell of a lot more interesting to read about.

I'm not going to read an article about LSA's.


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 Post subject: Re: Plane and Pilot did it again.
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I'm not implying I can afford the most expensive. I'm just saying that "the most expensive" is a hell of a lot more interesting to read about.

I'm not going to read an article about LSA's.



Jason

Why apologize, you are already flying a plane less than 1% of the flying population can afford.

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 Post subject: Re: Plane and Pilot did it again.
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I got my P&P yesterday and felt the same way. They're just vanity presses chasing advertising dollars to the detriment of their subscribers....totally boring! I wish they'd get Ives to write their articles. It would sure be a lot more entertaining!

Did you notice the lack of ads in Flying magazine? This market is really getting rough.


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I'm not implying I can afford the most expensive. I'm just saying that "the most expensive" is a hell of a lot more interesting to read about.

I'm not going to read an article about LSA's.



Jason

Why apologize, you are already flying a plane less than 1% of the flying population can afford.

Russ


Maybe so. But my airplane is probably the least expensive option to 99% of airplane owners.

Landing at PDK last night I taxied past rows of Lear 60's and G5's. I'm the little guy.

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In Plane and Pilot's January 2003 issue editor Lyn Freeman wrote a seething op-ed piece entitled "I'll Take the Latex Gloves for $100, Please," that disparages chiropractic and alternative health care. I haven't touched that magazine since and won't. Flying is far better written and enjoyable.

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If you sell a magazine, you have to fill the pages. Stuff is actually happening on the LSA front. What else are you gonna write about?

HBC's new P-Baron?

A pressurized TN Bonanza?

Another Pirep on the C172?


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Jason, if you don't mind, I'll PM you my address so you can send me your magazines! :D

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Stuff is actually happening on the LSA front.


Really? You know someone buying one?

I think the whole thing is gonna flop bigger than Adam Aircraft.


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I don't know about the rest of you, but when I approach the transportation section of the Magazine stand at Borders or Barnes & Noble, I start to salivate. Then when I see LSAs on the cover, it's a huge let-down. Like expecting a ham sandwich and getting egg salad.

Now I can get a little excited about some of the turbo-prop homebuilts out there :thumbup:


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Stuff is actually happening on the LSA front.


Really? You know someone buying one?

I think the whole thing is gonna flop bigger than Adam Aircraft.


I think most of the makers will go TU, but at least there are a lot of new designs coming out.

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Yes, there are a lot of new, slow and expensive designs coming out.

There's no way there's a market for these things. And don't tell me about the guys that can't pass a medical that just want to go fly around in the pattern every now and then. There aren't enough of them.

If I were going to fly "for fun", I'd get a Parasail. That looks fun. I can't imagine doing yet another fly by of Lake Lanier here in Atlanta in my LSA.

I love flying my Bo, but 75% of the enjoyment is "going somewhere".


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If I were going to fly "for fun", I'd get a Parasail. That looks fun. I can't imagine doing yet another fly by of Lake Lanier here in Atlanta in my LSA.


Exactly! That is why I still own my Quicksilver ultralight. Costs nothing to run and is the most fun you can possibly have... I can't count the number of times I've found myself at 700 feet flying into a spectacular sunset, just giggling with delight. An LSA-wannbe cruiser would be a BIG step down from that experience, even if you could make $200 hamburger runs with it. Who cares?


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Your airport demographics must be way different than mine. I have to assume we're at about 0.5 medicals per capita here. :D


They make their medicals out of the same stuff as their T-shirts?

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