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Gerald,

Thanks for the post. This is a good lesson for a pilot considering flying in heavy icing conditions. These guys just missed being written up in an NTSB report.

I've had similar events where the prop iced up. Nothing to do other than pull the power back to idle. It's a bad feeling.

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?..This is a good lesson for a pilot considering flying in heavy icing conditions. These guys just missed being written up in an NTSB report.

I've had similar events where the prop iced up. ... It's a bad feeling.
Concur! Double flameout and a double airstart. Impressive. Cool heads airborne and on the scope... and lucky as hell to be over that valley.

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I give a lot of credit to ATC. I hope the pilots bought them a beer or two.

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Wow, that is wild. I thought this Caravan event was hairy, but a these folks were very lucky.

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...a good lesson for a pilot considering flying in heavy icing conditions...
Lesson? Here's a King Air windshield at max heat at ~FL220. We had lots of warm air below ~8000MSL over the low terrain of southern Labrador. We were in moderate rime; props and boots working exactly as Mrs. Beech designed them. I'm sure the MU2 looked a WHOLE lot worse.


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4000 feet per minute with a double flameout? Wow. Very fortunate and a great job by the pilots flying and by ATC. :bugeye:


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Back in my early flying days, I made an approach into Asheville, NC. The cloud layer started about 1,500 down to minimums. As soon as I hit the clouds the windshield immediately iced over with about 1/2 inch of ice. I had zero forward visibility. I asked the seasoned pilot with me in the right seat what I should do. He says "open the little window on the side, crab the aircraft enough while flying the needles down to the runway. Just before touchdown straighten out the plane". Dang if it didn't work!

Don't try that at home!

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Back in my early flying days, I made an approach into Asheville, NC. The cloud layer started about 1,500 down to minimums. As soon as I hit the clouds the windshield immediately iced over with about 1/2 inch of ice. I had zero forward visibility. I asked the seasoned pilot with me in the right seat what I should do. He says "open the little window on the side, crab the aircraft enough while flying the needles down to the runway. Just before touchdown straighten out the plane". Dang if it didn't work!

Don't try that at home!


Rick you could also stick your hand out that side widow and use your wife's credit card to scrape a small hole to see through. Be careful you don't drop your wife's credit card????


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That is crazy. Kelowna is not an easy airport in an emergency.
Good example of flying all the way into and out of an emergency.
Fantastic concerted effort from the Canadian ATC calm and reassuring :thumbup:

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Got to love the Caravan pilot. I bet you a graduate of one of the Florida and/or Arizona flight schools. This is a problem with Known Ice Prohibition. I had an old school IFR instructor. We went looking for ice when bases and temperatures were OK to go find some, get coated, understand how the airplane behaves and then descent to melt it off and then did all over again... An Arrow will handle a surprising amount as long as one is vigilant about shaking off the propeller every few minutes or so. Sounds to me like she's never even heard of ice. Now I've been spoiled with the TKS in my Eagle. Other than on landing light lens, I don't even remember what ice looks like. Patiently waiting for my Bravo to get delivered. Been training in a B55 for my multi rating and picked up a bit of ice once about a week ago here in Iowa at 8000. I'll take TKS over boots any day after that experience. Nothing major but seeing little chunks still attached all over the leading edge in what was light icing after pumping the boots makes you wonder. I'm pretty positive the fact that the boots were coated with MN bugs had a bit to do with it. Few more hours left of training in the Baron so next time I'll make sure to clean them really well before take off.


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